Answers.Body: <p>Following up on @jncraton's answer, I've recreated the set in LeoCAD. Since the size and shape of the 88011 motor is the same as the 9V motor, the main issue becomes fitting the battery box. This is difficult since the conductor cabin is less than 8 studs long, so the prime target becomes the front part of the first car:</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/fzQwduj6.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/fzQwduj6.png" alt="Side view of cabin and front of first car" /></a></p>
  <p>Trying to fit the battery on the front car won't work, since it will touch the roof of the conductor's cabin, thus (a) preventing the train from rotating and (b) blocking the ports of the battery hub:</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/kECga1Qb.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/kECga1Qb.png" alt="battery touching cabin" /></a></p>
  <p>I therefore suggest elongating the front of the first car by one stud. Use two stacked 1x6 yellow plates to prolong the train car's baseplate (you'll also need to move the parts attached to the underside of the car, those which make up the pivoting mechanism):</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/7ApVj7Ve.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7ApVj7Ve.png" alt="Side view, with prolonged base" /></a></p>
  <p>I don't see a feasible way of routing the cable through the back of the motor; the only viable alternative is routing it from the front. Replace the highlighted 2x4 yellow plate with a 2x3, and replace the highlighted 1x4 black brick with a 1x4 arch. That should give you enough room to route the cabling (at the expense of the train's conductor not having a good place to sit):</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/8M6nwCvT.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/8M6nwCvT.png" alt="perspective view of the model with two parts highlighed" /></a>
  <a href="https://i.sstatic.net/Cqefmxrk.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Cqefmxrk.png" alt="perspective view, with a sketch of the cable routing" /></a></p>
  <p>Finalize by covering the battery box with black bricks - e.g. 1x2 bricks with grille, cheese slopes and tiles:</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/trrzYdoy.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/trrzYdoy.png" alt="finalized assembly" /></a></p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>I haven't done this, but it looks like it should be possible to motorize this set with Powered Up. I don't think you can fit the battery box inside the locomotive like you are hoping. Here's the motor that needs to fit:</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/xFfb0lPi.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/xFfb0lPi.png" alt="Train motor" /></a></p>
  <p>Here's the base of the locomotive:</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/eAB8huVv.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/eAB8huVv.png" alt="Locomotive base" /></a></p>
  <p>It appears that there is room for the wire on the Powered Up train motor to leave towards the front.</p>
  <p>Here's the hub that also needs a place:</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/Ut23AiED.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Ut23AiED.png" alt="City Hub" /></a></p>
  <p>It's not massive, but I don't see any way it could possibly fit inside this locomotive without significant modification.</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/GA617VQE.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/GA617VQE.png" alt="Locomotive with upper section nearly complete" /></a></p>
  <p>I think that the easiest way to make this work would be to adjust the first car so that it has room for the battery box.</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/19gftcb3.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/19gftcb3.png" alt="Car 1" /></a></p>
  
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Body: <p>Has anyone on here converted the <a href="https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=4559-1#T=I" rel="nofollow noreferrer">4559</a> cargo train to powered up?</p>
  <p>I've seen similar questions but not about the set in question. The locomotive is really small and I would rather not have a wire between it and the first train car.</p>
  <p>I have also seen an MOC from Bulletbricks (now defunct) for this exact purpose. I was not able to contact them to get the plans.</p>
  
Tags: <trains><powered-up><set-modification>
Title: Converting 9V 4559 to powered up
UserDisplayName: GrowABeard
ThreadText: # Converting 9V 4559 to powered up
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2024-12-07)
  
  Has anyone on here converted the [4559](https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=4559-1#T=I) cargo train to powered up?
  
  I've seen similar questions but not about the set in question. The locomotive is really small and I would rather not have a wire between it and the first train car.
  
  I have also seen an MOC from Bulletbricks (now defunct) for this exact purpose. I was not able to contact them to get the plans.
  
  **Tags:** trains, powered-up, set-modification
  
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  ## 2 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_1 on 2024-12-10. Score: 3
  
  Following up on @jncraton's answer, I've recreated the set in LeoCAD. Since the size and shape of the 88011 motor is the same as the 9V motor, the main issue becomes fitting the battery box. This is difficult since the conductor cabin is less than 8 studs long, so the prime target becomes the front part of the first car:
  
  [![Side view of cabin and front of first car](https://i.sstatic.net/fzQwduj6.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/fzQwduj6.png)
  
  Trying to fit the battery on the front car won't work, since it will touch the roof of the conductor's cabin, thus (a) preventing the train from rotating and (b) blocking the ports of the battery hub:
  
  [![battery touching cabin](https://i.sstatic.net/kECga1Qb.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/kECga1Qb.png)
  
  I therefore suggest elongating the front of the first car by one stud. Use two stacked 1x6 yellow plates to prolong the train car's baseplate (you'll also need to move the parts attached to the underside of the car, those which make up the pivoting mechanism):
  
  [![Side view, with prolonged base](https://i.sstatic.net/7ApVj7Ve.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/7ApVj7Ve.png)
  
  I don't see a feasible way of routing the cable through the back of the motor; the only viable alternative is routing it from the front. Replace the highlighted 2x4 yellow plate with a 2x3, and replace the highlighted 1x4 black brick with a 1x4 arch. That should give you enough room to route the cabling (at the expense of the train's conductor not having a good place to sit):
  
  [![perspective view of the model with two parts highlighed](https://i.sstatic.net/8M6nwCvT.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/8M6nwCvT.png)
  [![perspective view, with a sketch of the cable routing](https://i.sstatic.net/Cqefmxrk.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/Cqefmxrk.png)
  
  Finalize by covering the battery box with black bricks - e.g. 1x2 bricks with grille, cheese slopes and tiles:
  
  [![finalized assembly](https://i.sstatic.net/trrzYdoy.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/trrzYdoy.png)
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2024-12-08. Score: 3
  
  I haven't done this, but it looks like it should be possible to motorize this set with Powered Up. I don't think you can fit the battery box inside the locomotive like you are hoping. Here's the motor that needs to fit:
  
  [![Train motor](https://i.sstatic.net/xFfb0lPi.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/xFfb0lPi.png)
  
  Here's the base of the locomotive:
  
  [![Locomotive base](https://i.sstatic.net/eAB8huVv.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/eAB8huVv.png)
  
  It appears that there is room for the wire on the Powered Up train motor to leave towards the front.
  
  Here's the hub that also needs a place:
  
  [![City Hub](https://i.sstatic.net/Ut23AiED.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/Ut23AiED.png)
  
  It's not massive, but I don't see any way it could possibly fit inside this locomotive without significant modification.
  
  [![Locomotive with upper section nearly complete](https://i.sstatic.net/GA617VQE.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/GA617VQE.png)
  
  I think that the easiest way to make this work would be to adjust the first car so that it has room for the battery box.
  
  [![Car 1](https://i.sstatic.net/19gftcb3.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/19gftcb3.png)
  
  
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