Answers.Body: <p>The GBC setups I've seen/participated in, have included modules using all kinds of electrical components, but mostly Power Functions (PF) since it's not hard to power those with a 9V train regulator that can easily be attached to the power grid.
  Recently I've also seen some Powered Up (PU) controlled modules in an event setup where most modules were PF.</p>
  <p>But as you say, PU modules has two methods:</p>
  <p>1: PU modules require a nearby Bluetooth device, which gets impractical quickly. Some modules can share a motor, and probably a Bluetooth controller, but I don't foresee the guys I know who have 100+ modules buying 100+ phones/tablets. I also don't know if making several hundred Bluetooth connections within a setup is possible.</p>
  <p>OR if the hubs in each module run Pybricks if you don't have the devices.</p>
  <p>and 2: The PU modules need a PF to PU adapters to power the modules,</p>
  <p>As it is now old parts (the train regulator probably takes the lead) are the best for GBC, but that's only good for a limited time (and mostly for those of us who already have a supply of those parts). But I have no idea what the future for GBC will look like (I fear it will just die due to a lack of recent parts that are usable).</p>
  <p>Edit: One of the things I set out to write, but forgot as I got into it: If you intend to exhibit your creations (and GBC modules are boring if not), you should also abide by any local rules your local LUG (or wherever you intend to exhibit) has.</p>
  <p>Edit 2: The commenters said the battery box has an expensive price tag of 35 euros but to run the GBC modules with PU motors at full power.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: This is no longer correct, PU modules do not require a bluetooth device, there is the "dumb" battery box 88015 and Spike Prime or Robot Inventor hubs can also run independently without any bluetooth connection.
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Answers.Text: Haven't seen that yet, but it does make things a little better. Does that also have a power input so we don't have to spend the whole day changing batteries when doing large GBC setups?
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Answers.Text: The RI and spike prime hubs have a rechargable battery that you can leave plugged in all day (although the battery actually only charges when motors are stopped with recent firmware). The 88015 has no power input, but modifying so it takes 9V from a transfo should be a trivial mod for an electronics hobbyist.
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Body: <p>There seem to be two competing standards for powered LEGO modules in 2023.</p>
  <ul>
  <li><p>Power Functions</p>
  </li>
  <li><p>Powered Up</p>
  </li>
  </ul>
  <p>I have read that Power Functions may be retired soon, but can easily work in a standalone matter. Powered Up seems to require Bluetooth devices and apps to work correctly.</p>
  <p>I want to start building GBC modules with motors and maybe sensors. As both standards seem not to be compatible with each other, which one would be the most sensible to pick in 2023? I have to choose one before I start acquiring parts.</p>
  
Tags: <motor><shopping><power-functions><powered-up><gbc>
Title: I want to get started making GBC modules. Which standard powered system to choose in 2023?
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ThreadText: # I want to get started making GBC modules. Which standard powered system to choose in 2023?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2023-07-31)
  
  There seem to be two competing standards for powered LEGO modules in 2023.
  
  * Power Functions
  * Powered Up
  
  I have read that Power Functions may be retired soon, but can easily work in a standalone matter. Powered Up seems to require Bluetooth devices and apps to work correctly.
  
  I want to start building GBC modules with motors and maybe sensors. As both standards seem not to be compatible with each other, which one would be the most sensible to pick in 2023? I have to choose one before I start acquiring parts.
  
  **Tags:** motor, shopping, power-functions, powered-up, gbc
  
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  ## 1 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_1 on 2023-07-31. Score: 2 | Accepted answer
  
  The GBC setups I've seen/participated in, have included modules using all kinds of electrical components, but mostly Power Functions (PF) since it's not hard to power those with a 9V train regulator that can easily be attached to the power grid.
  Recently I've also seen some Powered Up (PU) controlled modules in an event setup where most modules were PF.
  
  But as you say, PU modules has two methods:
  
  1: PU modules require a nearby Bluetooth device, which gets impractical quickly. Some modules can share a motor, and probably a Bluetooth controller, but I don't foresee the guys I know who have 100+ modules buying 100+ phones/tablets. I also don't know if making several hundred Bluetooth connections within a setup is possible.
  
  OR if the hubs in each module run Pybricks if you don't have the devices.
  
  and 2: The PU modules need a PF to PU adapters to power the modules,
  
  As it is now old parts (the train regulator probably takes the lead) are the best for GBC, but that's only good for a limited time (and mostly for those of us who already have a supply of those parts). But I have no idea what the future for GBC will look like (I fear it will just die due to a lack of recent parts that are usable).
  
  Edit: One of the things I set out to write, but forgot as I got into it: If you intend to exhibit your creations (and GBC modules are boring if not), you should also abide by any local rules your local LUG (or wherever you intend to exhibit) has.
  
  Edit 2: The commenters said the battery box has an expensive price tag of 35 euros but to run the GBC modules with PU motors at full power.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_2**: This is no longer correct, PU modules do not require a bluetooth device, there is the "dumb" battery box 88015 and Spike Prime or Robot Inventor hubs can also run independently without any bluetooth connection.  
  > **username_1**: Haven't seen that yet, but it does make things a little better. Does that also have a power input so we don't have to spend the whole day changing batteries when doing large GBC setups?  
  > **username_2**: The RI and spike prime hubs have a rechargable battery that you can leave plugged in all day (although the battery actually only charges when motors are stopped with recent firmware). The 88015 has no power input, but modifying so it takes 9V from a transfo should be a trivial mod for an electronics hobbyist.  
  
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