<h2>Differentiation</h2>
<p>The main differences between the e3D-Nozzle family and the &quot;simple&quot; Nozzle are the <em>wrench size</em>, <em>body length</em> and <em>thread length</em> of the nozzle. In fact, I have come across 2 different &quot;Chinese&quot; styles of nozzle, a &quot;big&quot; and a &quot;small&quot; one.</p>
<h2>Comparison</h2>
<p>For comparison, take a look at this photo, where I aligned the lower ends of the bodies to line up under the wrench needed to handle them.</p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/GTqgH.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/GTqgH.jpg" alt="Chinesium Big, Small and e3D styles" /></a></p>
<p>In words, left to right:</p>
<ul>
<li>Chinese Big M6 Nozzle - Aka &quot;Creality Mk8&quot;
<ul>
<li>size 8 metric wrench, 4 mm M6x1 thread length, 1 mm clearance, extends a minimum of 8 mm from the heater block</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Chinese Small M6 Nozzle
<ul>
<li>size 7 metric wrench, 4 mm M6x1 thread length, 1 mm clearance, extends a minimum of 8 mm from the heater block</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>e3D v6 normal (aka NOT volcano etc)
<ul>
<li>size 7 metric wrench, 6 mm M6x1 thread length, 2 mm clearance, extends a minimum of 5 mm from the heater block</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>To differentiate from Makerbot nozzles:</p>
<ul>
<li>Makerbot Mk6
<ul>
<li>size unspecified wrench, 7 mm M6x1 thread + clearance, extends a minimum of 5.5 mm from the heater block, 12.5 mm overall.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Makerbot Mk7
<ul>
<li>size 1/4 inch imperial wrench (6.36 mm), 5 mm M6x1 thread + clearance, extends a minimum of 8 mm from the heater block.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Makerbot Mk8
<ul>
<li>size 7 mm metric wrench, otherwise as Mk7 - making this <em>almost</em> identical to Creality Mk8 but for no specified clearance between thread and head</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Makerbot Mk10
<ul>
<li>size 9 mm metric wrench, 4.5 mm M7x1 thread, 1.5 mm clearing + dia 7.5 mm shelf, extends a minimum of 7 mm from the heater block</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2>Replaceability</h2>
<h3>Chinese big to Chinese small nozzles in either hotend</h3>
<p>Due to the dimensions, one can easily swap the big and small Chinese nozzles for one another. They are virtually interchangeable but differ in the wear patterns.</p>
<h3>Chinese nozzles in e3D Hotend</h3>
<p>The 3 mm shorter snout and deeper butting with the heatbreak of the e3D nozzle in its designed hotend make it hard to swap a Chinese nozzle into an e3D setup: neither does the thread allow to screw the nozzle in the right length sometimes, it also extends much further. To accommodate, the whole heater block has to be screwed about 3 mm more onto the heatbreak, then the nozzle gets screwed in. The result is equal in overall length.</p>
<h3>Makerbot Mk7/Mk8 to Chinese Nozzles</h3>
<p>But for the different wrench, those generally will fit, but</p>
<p>###e3D Nozzle in Chinese Hotend
However, the long thread of the e3D Nozzle allows it to be mounted in a hotend designed to hold a Chinese nozzle without trouble - the 3 mm of difference in the body are used for a longer thread and clearance between thread and body, resulting in the same overall length without changing the mounting position of the heater block on the heatbreak.</p>
<h2>Internals</h2>
<p>Stefan of CNC-Kitchen recently tortured a couple of nozzles for science and investigating wear and tear (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvlMeTnjriQ" rel="nofollow noreferrer">video</a>). He found out a couple of differences on the internals:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Chinese nozzle had a non-straight pattern on the inside</li>
<li>The angle in the feeding cone is 60° in an e3D and 90° in the Chinese sample</li>
</ul>
<h2>Conclusion</h2>
<p>The Chinese Style nozzles can be interchanged for one another. an e3D style nozzle with standard length (aka not-volcano) can be swapped in for any Chinese Style nozzle. A Chinese Style nozzle needs to have the heater block shifted if mounted into an e3D hotend.</p>

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<p>There is pretty much an ecosystem of two Nozzle designs out there that share the M6 thread on the coupler to the Heating block: </p>

<ul>
<li>the e3D "snub nose" or "shouldered" design.</li>
<li>the "Chinesium" nozzle that is often claimed to be some "MK8" or "MK10" without naming what item of which manufacturer is actually iterated there.

<ul>
<li>They seem to be derived from the <a href="https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com/a/7366/8884">Makerbot MK8 Hotend</a> which uses M6 threading and not the MK10, as that uses M7 threading.</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>What differentiates the two and can one swap one for the other?</strong></p>

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[related, but not a duplicate (as focussing on the layer adhesion effects)](https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com/questions/7844/e3d-v6-nozzle-vs-mk8-nozzle-first-layer-adhesion)
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What is the functional difference between an e3D-Style nozzle, Makerbot MK8 and M6 Chinesium Nozzles?
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# What is the functional difference between an e3D-Style nozzle, Makerbot MK8 and M6 Chinesium Nozzles?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-05-13)

There is pretty much an ecosystem of two Nozzle designs out there that share the M6 thread on the coupler to the Heating block:

* the e3D "snub nose" or "shouldered" design.
* the "Chinesium" nozzle that is often claimed to be some "MK8" or "MK10" without naming what item of which manufacturer is actually iterated there.
  + They seem to be derived from the [Makerbot MK8 Hotend](https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com/a/7366/8884) which uses M6 threading and not the MK10, as that uses M7 threading.

**What differentiates the two and can one swap one for the other?**

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> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: [related, but not a duplicate (as focussing on the layer adhesion effects)](https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com/questions/7844/e3d-v6-nozzle-vs-mk8-nozzle-first-layer-adhesion)  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_0 on 2019-05-13. Score: 7 | Accepted answer

## Differentiation

The main differences between the e3D-Nozzle family and the "simple" Nozzle are the *wrench size*, *body length* and *thread length* of the nozzle. In fact, I have come across 2 different "Chinese" styles of nozzle, a "big" and a "small" one.

## Comparison

For comparison, take a look at this photo, where I aligned the lower ends of the bodies to line up under the wrench needed to handle them.

[![Chinesium Big, Small and e3D styles](https://i.sstatic.net/GTqgH.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/GTqgH.jpg)

In words, left to right:

* Chinese Big M6 Nozzle - Aka "Creality Mk8"
  + size 8 metric wrench, 4 mm M6x1 thread length, 1 mm clearance, extends a minimum of 8 mm from the heater block
* Chinese Small M6 Nozzle
  + size 7 metric wrench, 4 mm M6x1 thread length, 1 mm clearance, extends a minimum of 8 mm from the heater block
* e3D v6 normal (aka NOT volcano etc)
  + size 7 metric wrench, 6 mm M6x1 thread length, 2 mm clearance, extends a minimum of 5 mm from the heater block

To differentiate from Makerbot nozzles:

* Makerbot Mk6
  + size unspecified wrench, 7 mm M6x1 thread + clearance, extends a minimum of 5.5 mm from the heater block, 12.5 mm overall.
* Makerbot Mk7
  + size 1/4 inch imperial wrench (6.36 mm), 5 mm M6x1 thread + clearance, extends a minimum of 8 mm from the heater block.
* Makerbot Mk8
  + size 7 mm metric wrench, otherwise as Mk7 - making this *almost* identical to Creality Mk8 but for no specified clearance between thread and head
* Makerbot Mk10
  + size 9 mm metric wrench, 4.5 mm M7x1 thread, 1.5 mm clearing + dia 7.5 mm shelf, extends a minimum of 7 mm from the heater block

## Replaceability

### Chinese big to Chinese small nozzles in either hotend

Due to the dimensions, one can easily swap the big and small Chinese nozzles for one another. They are virtually interchangeable but differ in the wear patterns.

### Chinese nozzles in e3D Hotend

The 3 mm shorter snout and deeper butting with the heatbreak of the e3D nozzle in its designed hotend make it hard to swap a Chinese nozzle into an e3D setup: neither does the thread allow to screw the nozzle in the right length sometimes, it also extends much further. To accommodate, the whole heater block has to be screwed about 3 mm more onto the heatbreak, then the nozzle gets screwed in. The result is equal in overall length.

### Makerbot Mk7/Mk8 to Chinese Nozzles

But for the different wrench, those generally will fit, but

###e3D Nozzle in Chinese Hotend
However, the long thread of the e3D Nozzle allows it to be mounted in a hotend designed to hold a Chinese nozzle without trouble - the 3 mm of difference in the body are used for a longer thread and clearance between thread and body, resulting in the same overall length without changing the mounting position of the heater block on the heatbreak.

## Internals

Stefan of CNC-Kitchen recently tortured a couple of nozzles for science and investigating wear and tear ([video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvlMeTnjriQ)). He found out a couple of differences on the internals:

* The Chinese nozzle had a non-straight pattern on the inside
* The angle in the feeding cone is 60° in an e3D and 90° in the Chinese sample

## Conclusion

The Chinese Style nozzles can be interchanged for one another. an e3D style nozzle with standard length (aka not-volcano) can be swapped in for any Chinese Style nozzle. A Chinese Style nozzle needs to have the heater block shifted if mounted into an e3D hotend.


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