<p>This is an older Ender 3 Pro, they at one point came with these press-fit gears, these are not intended to be removed which is a poor design decision. I would recommend buying a new motor than going through the hassle of removing it.</p>

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2021-01-11T18:11:02.957Z
indeed, the D-shafts are 1000% better.
Trish
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2023-07-11T18:13:34.033Z
I agree that buying the type of motor of the expected design solves the 3 problems reported: gear press fit, shaft has no flat surface , shaft too short. It's also cheaper than a good puller, and has the less risk of printing problems due to mistakes.  The one I selected is specifically for the E extruder "axis".
John Hall
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2020-12-29T03:32:41.613Z
2020-12-29T03:32:41.613Z
Barrel
<p>I had exactly the same problem with an Ender 3 Pro I bought a couple of weeks ago (Mar 2021) and I was able to remove the gear easily with a small gear/bearing puller... take a look at Amazon and you will find plenty of selection.</p>
<p>The 3-arm puller works better as it's much more stable when pulling the gear (this is the one I have). Both work in the same way; the arms/jaws attache to the bottom of the gear and the tip of the top screw pushes the motor shaft down.</p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/cP87H.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/cP87H.png" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/8TD3R.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/8TD3R.png" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>

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2021-03-19T10:14:15.150Z
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2021-03-19T18:22:12.810Z
BCD
<p>I had the same problem with the pressed on gear. With WD40 and a center punch the gear came off alright.</p>
<p>The next problem was the shaft that is to short and perfectly round. With a small grinder (Dremel) I created a flat spot. I carefully tapped the shaft from the bottom of the motor until it was sticking out enough on the top side. Now it works perfectly with my dual extruder.</p>

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2021-04-04T09:30:15.220Z
2022-02-13T17:53:48.163Z
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hensteb
<p>I accomplished this by using a pair of open-end wrenches and some heat.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Heat the brass gear end with a butane torch or a MAP gas torch</p>
</li>
<li><p>Clamp the stepper motor into a vice</p>
</li>
<li><p>Position two open-end wrenches such that you can use the open-end part of one open-end wrench underneath the brass gear while the second wrench is positioned perpendicular to the first one, underneath it (photos in below article will help visualize)</p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/qK4U5.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer" title="Using a couple of wrenches to pop the brass gear off of the motor"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qK4U5.jpg" alt="Using a couple of wrenches to pop the brass gear off of the motor" title="Using a couple of wrenches to pop the brass gear off of the motor" /></a></p>
</li>
<li><p><em><strong>Gently</strong></em> tap on the end of the first wrench, to release the brass gear</p>
</li>
<li><p>Install the new gear, but you will need to grind a small flat on the shaft of the stepper motor so that the set screw has a landing.</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p>The idea is basically making a lever out of one wrench, and using impact force to release the gear.</p>
<p>See this article for visuals: <a href="http://leftbraintinkering.blogspot.com/2022/01/micro-swiss-direct-drive-installation.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Micro Swiss Direct Drive Installation for Creality Ender 3 Pro with a Press-Fit Extruder Gear</a></p>

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2022-03-25T15:08:38.657Z
When using a pair of wrenches to remove the gear. If I understand what they're doing, it's likely to damage the bearings of the motor. Always best to support the shaft and never use the bearings as something to press against.
Neil in MA
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2022-03-26T17:33:03.437Z
@NeilinMA The article mentions that a gear puller is the safest approach, as it counters the removal force on the gear with the same counteracting force on the shaft.  That being said, I doubt the method depicted here is any more *likely* to damage the bearing than any other method that does *not* involve a puller.
skelliam
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skelliam
<p>Heating it proved futile in my case (I didn't have a blowtorch either), I was able to get the gear off by using a Dremel, I also flattened a small side for the screw.</p>
<p>However, to my extreme frustration, I found out that the actual height of the shaft is not long enough to reach the dual extruder's filament hole and thus had to order another motor.</p>

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2021-01-12T11:59:20.010Z
Neo
<p>I had the same problem. Bought my Ender 3 Pro in July 2021, so not sure if the new or old versions have this problem. I solved the problem slightly differently.</p>
<p>I could not pull out the gear it was too tight, so I put the pliers on top of the gear and then hammered the gear <em>down</em>, not up. Then on top of it I have put the gear that came with the dual drive on top of the old gear and screwed it according to nozzle position. After e-step calibration, to my surprise the whole thing worked and printing fine.</p>

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Resat Ilgaz Demirel
<p>I picked up a used Ender 3 Pro, which needed a <em>lot</em> of work.  I discovered the same annoyance, the extruder &quot;gear&quot; was press-fitted, and the shaft was too short for the manual add-on wheel.  I had a look-alike motor (with the same connector) in my parts bin, so after some effort<sup>1</sup>, I removed the gear and installed it on the new motor.</p>
<p>Once in place, I have plenty of shaft to mount the handwheel.  One additional comment, the connector was the same, but the wiring was not.  I had to ohm-out the windings and move a couple pins in the female connector.  Runs great now, and all is wheel (pun?).</p>
<p>BTW, I saw someone above using a pair of wrenches to remove the gear.  If I understand what they're doing, it's likely to damage the bearings of the motor.  Always best to support the shaft and never use the bearings as something to press against.  My 2c.</p>
<hr />
<p><sup>1</sup> I mimicked the effect of a gear puller. Using a small arbor press I supported the gear with a cross bridge made of two short pieces of 1&quot; dia. dowel (as the pillars on each side) and a pair of 1/4 inch square steel rods to span the distance under the gear. one on each side of the motor shaft. The motor is now dangling in free air, supported by the gear. I then pressed down on the end of the motor shaft, eventually the motor broke free and dropped, leaving the gear on top of the rods</p>

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Neil in MA
<p>This brass extruder gear is either press fitted (see <a href="https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com/a/15132">other answer</a>) or hot crimped onto the shaft. Brass has about twice the thermal expansion rate as stainless steel, so you could heat the gear while cooling the shaft (e.g. stepper upside down with the shaft in water, heating the gear with a small torch lighter, a makeshift aluminium foil shield could be used to protect the stepper base) to get the gear off.</p>
<p>Grinding it off would be easier (or even more easy is to buy a new stepper motor) as when you get the gear off, the shaft is round, so you need to grind a flat spot on the shaft anyway to make sure the dual extruder gear can be screwed on tightly.</p>

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2020-12-28T23:07:53.287Z
2020-12-28T23:07:53.287Z
0scar
<p>If you cant see any grub-screw on the extruder gear, it's likely that it has been permanently press-fit onto the motor shaft. It is possible to remove the gear if you have something like a Dremel to cut it off, however, do note that it would be a permanent modification, and that your warranty (if you had any) would be void. If you do go this route, be careful not to Dremel into the shaft of the motor, as this would likely cause the new gear to not fit properly.</p>
<p>If this is a new printer, I would recommend assembling it with the stock extruder assembly first, and ordering a secondary extruder motor without the gear press-fit onto its shaft. Then you could swap them out and not need to worry about damaging the existing motor.</p>

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2020-12-28T21:35:23.460Z
2020-12-28T21:35:23.460Z
craftxbox
<p>Same problem here. I removed it by force using a pliers and a hammer, then drill a spot on the shaft using ikea drill. Everything works fine so far.</p>

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2021-05-26T19:21:10.657Z
2021-05-26T19:21:10.657Z
Eric
<p>I am very new in the 3D printing scene.
After a lot of searching for my specific problem (and didn't find any answers, of course) I decided to reach out.</p>
<p>I bought a Creality Ender 3 Pro in November and after a few days of lovely prints
I decided to upgrade the printer with a glass bed and  &quot;Aluminum Dual Gear Pulley Dual Drive Extruder Kit&quot;.</p>
<p>The Problem, as you might expected already, is with the installation of the dual gear extruder. I have watched a dozen of YouTube videos, and all of them have something I don't – a screw in the stock gold gear on the extruder motor.</p>
<p>How can I install the Aluminum Dual Gear Pulley Dual Drive Extruder Kit if I take the gear out? Should I try remove it with force?
Please if someone has come across the same situation, that there isn’t a screw In the stock gear on the extruder motor and mange to take it out, please tell me.
I'm adding a picture so you understand what I mean.</p>
<p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7F5YQ.jpg" alt="" />
<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/MIBeb.jpg" alt="" /></p>

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2020-12-28T20:05:17.393Z
Welcome to the 3D Printing Stack Exchange! I'm having trouble understanding what the problem is, does the instruction manual that the printer came with (likely on the included SD card or USB flash drive) mention the grub screw there?
craftxbox
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2020-12-28T20:38:16.347Z
no. the problem is to remove the stock golden gear that sit on the extruder motor, so i could installl the "Aluminum Dual Gear Pulley Dual Drive Extruder Kit" ...
ציון לוי
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2020-12-28T20:47:21.323Z
Could you add a picture of that kit and the part you need to replace the stock gear with?
craftxbox
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2020-12-28T21:08:19.567Z
this is the kit:  https://www.banggood.com/Upgraded-Aluminum-Dual-Gear-Pulley-Dual-Drive-Extruder-Kit-For-Creality-CR-10-or-CR-10S-or-CR-10S-Pro-or-Ender-3-or-Ender-3-Pro-3D-Printer-p-1469345.html?rmmds=myorder&cur_warehouse=CN, and the part is the golden gear in the 3 1st pics i have added...
ציון לוי
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2020-12-28T21:51:40.870Z
The motor in question is not a stock motor as I know them... Is that from the "dual drive kit"? Because the stock motor should have an axis that is D-shaped.
Trish
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2021-06-02T14:31:36.430Z
Profit rules.  Now they're not only pressing that drive wheel onto the stepper shaft, but they're shortening the shaft.  Mine ends at the upper surface of the drive wheel, so I can't even install an extruder knob if I want one without replacing the stepper and drive wheel.
Zeiss Ikon
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Problems with stock gear with no screw on Ender 3 pro
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# Problems with stock gear with no screw on Ender 3 pro

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-12-28)

I am very new in the 3D printing scene.
After a lot of searching for my specific problem (and didn't find any answers, of course) I decided to reach out.

I bought a Creality Ender 3 Pro in November and after a few days of lovely prints
I decided to upgrade the printer with a glass bed and "Aluminum Dual Gear Pulley Dual Drive Extruder Kit".

The Problem, as you might expected already, is with the installation of the dual gear extruder. I have watched a dozen of YouTube videos, and all of them have something I don't – a screw in the stock gold gear on the extruder motor.

How can I install the Aluminum Dual Gear Pulley Dual Drive Extruder Kit if I take the gear out? Should I try remove it with force?
Please if someone has come across the same situation, that there isn’t a screw In the stock gear on the extruder motor and mange to take it out, please tell me.
I'm adding a picture so you understand what I mean.

![](https://i.sstatic.net/7F5YQ.jpg)
![](https://i.sstatic.net/MIBeb.jpg)

**Tags:** creality-ender-3
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Welcome to the 3D Printing Stack Exchange! I'm having trouble understanding what the problem is, does the instruction manual that the printer came with (likely on the included SD card or USB flash drive) mention the grub screw there?  
> **username_0**: no. the problem is to remove the stock golden gear that sit on the extruder motor, so i could installl the "Aluminum Dual Gear Pulley Dual Drive Extruder Kit" ...  
> **username_1**: Could you add a picture of that kit and the part you need to replace the stock gear with?  
> **username_0**: this is the kit:  https://www.banggood.com/Upgraded-Aluminum-Dual-Gear-Pulley-Dual-Drive-Extruder-Kit-For-Creality-CR-10-or-CR-10S-or-CR-10S-Pro-or-Ender-3-or-Ender-3-Pro-3D-Printer-p-1469345.html?rmmds=myorder&cur_warehouse=CN, and the part is the golden gear in the 3 1st pics i have added...  
> **username_2**: The motor in question is not a stock motor as I know them... Is that from the "dual drive kit"? Because the stock motor should have an axis that is D-shaped.  
> **username_3**: Profit rules.  Now they're not only pressing that drive wheel onto the stepper shaft, but they're shortening the shaft.  Mine ends at the upper surface of the drive wheel, so I can't even install an extruder knob if I want one without replacing the stepper and drive wheel.  

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## 10 answers

### Answer by username_4 on 2020-12-29. Score: 5

This is an older Ender 3 Pro, they at one point came with these press-fit gears, these are not intended to be removed which is a poor design decision. I would recommend buying a new motor than going through the hassle of removing it.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: indeed, the D-shafts are 1000% better.  
> **username_5**: I agree that buying the type of motor of the expected design solves the 3 problems reported: gear press fit, shaft has no flat surface , shaft too short. It's also cheaper than a good puller, and has the less risk of printing problems due to mistakes.  The one I selected is specifically for the E extruder "axis".  

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### Answer by username_6 on 2021-03-19. Score: 5

I had exactly the same problem with an Ender 3 Pro I bought a couple of weeks ago (Mar 2021) and I was able to remove the gear easily with a small gear/bearing puller... take a look at Amazon and you will find plenty of selection.

The 3-arm puller works better as it's much more stable when pulling the gear (this is the one I have). Both work in the same way; the arms/jaws attache to the bottom of the gear and the tip of the top screw pushes the motor shaft down.

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/cP87H.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/cP87H.png)

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/8TD3R.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/8TD3R.png)


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### Answer by username_7 on 2021-04-04. Score: 3

I had the same problem with the pressed on gear. With WD40 and a center punch the gear came off alright.

The next problem was the shaft that is to short and perfectly round. With a small grinder (Dremel) I created a flat spot. I carefully tapped the shaft from the bottom of the motor until it was sticking out enough on the top side. Now it works perfectly with my dual extruder.


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### Answer by username_8 on 2022-02-04. Score: 3

I accomplished this by using a pair of open-end wrenches and some heat.

1. Heat the brass gear end with a butane torch or a MAP gas torch
2. Clamp the stepper motor into a vice
3. Position two open-end wrenches such that you can use the open-end part of one open-end wrench underneath the brass gear while the second wrench is positioned perpendicular to the first one, underneath it (photos in below article will help visualize)

   [![Using a couple of wrenches to pop the brass gear off of the motor](https://i.sstatic.net/qK4U5.jpg "Using a couple of wrenches to pop the brass gear off of the motor")](https://i.sstatic.net/qK4U5.jpg "Using a couple of wrenches to pop the brass gear off of the motor")
4. ***Gently*** tap on the end of the first wrench, to release the brass gear
5. Install the new gear, but you will need to grind a small flat on the shaft of the stepper motor so that the set screw has a landing.

The idea is basically making a lever out of one wrench, and using impact force to release the gear.

See this article for visuals: [Micro Swiss Direct Drive Installation for Creality Ender 3 Pro with a Press-Fit Extruder Gear](http://leftbraintinkering.blogspot.com/2022/01/micro-swiss-direct-drive-installation.html)

> **Comments:**
> **username_9**: When using a pair of wrenches to remove the gear. If I understand what they're doing, it's likely to damage the bearings of the motor. Always best to support the shaft and never use the bearings as something to press against.  
> **username_8**: @NeilinMA The article mentions that a gear puller is the safest approach, as it counters the removal force on the gear with the same counteracting force on the shaft.  That being said, I doubt the method depicted here is any more *likely* to damage the bearing than any other method that does *not* involve a puller.  

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### Answer by username_10 on 2021-01-11. Score: 2

Heating it proved futile in my case (I didn't have a blowtorch either), I was able to get the gear off by using a Dremel, I also flattened a small side for the screw.

However, to my extreme frustration, I found out that the actual height of the shaft is not long enough to reach the dual extruder's filament hole and thus had to order another motor.


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### Answer by username_11 on 2021-10-08. Score: 1

I had the same problem. Bought my Ender 3 Pro in July 2021, so not sure if the new or old versions have this problem. I solved the problem slightly differently.

I could not pull out the gear it was too tight, so I put the pliers on top of the gear and then hammered the gear *down*, not up. Then on top of it I have put the gear that came with the dual drive on top of the old gear and screwed it according to nozzle position. After e-step calibration, to my surprise the whole thing worked and printing fine.


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### Answer by username_9 on 2022-03-25. Score: 1

I picked up a used Ender 3 Pro, which needed a *lot* of work. I discovered the same annoyance, the extruder "gear" was press-fitted, and the shaft was too short for the manual add-on wheel. I had a look-alike motor (with the same connector) in my parts bin, so after some effort1, I removed the gear and installed it on the new motor.

Once in place, I have plenty of shaft to mount the handwheel. One additional comment, the connector was the same, but the wiring was not. I had to ohm-out the windings and move a couple pins in the female connector. Runs great now, and all is wheel (pun?).

BTW, I saw someone above using a pair of wrenches to remove the gear. If I understand what they're doing, it's likely to damage the bearings of the motor. Always best to support the shaft and never use the bearings as something to press against. My 2c.

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1 I mimicked the effect of a gear puller. Using a small arbor press I supported the gear with a cross bridge made of two short pieces of 1" dia. dowel (as the pillars on each side) and a pair of 1/4 inch square steel rods to span the distance under the gear. one on each side of the motor shaft. The motor is now dangling in free air, supported by the gear. I then pressed down on the end of the motor shaft, eventually the motor broke free and dropped, leaving the gear on top of the rods


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### Answer by username_12 on 2020-12-28. Score: 1

This brass extruder gear is either press fitted (see [other answer](https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com/a/15132)) or hot crimped onto the shaft. Brass has about twice the thermal expansion rate as stainless steel, so you could heat the gear while cooling the shaft (e.g. stepper upside down with the shaft in water, heating the gear with a small torch lighter, a makeshift aluminium foil shield could be used to protect the stepper base) to get the gear off.

Grinding it off would be easier (or even more easy is to buy a new stepper motor) as when you get the gear off, the shaft is round, so you need to grind a flat spot on the shaft anyway to make sure the dual extruder gear can be screwed on tightly.


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### Answer by username_1 on 2020-12-28. Score: 1

If you cant see any grub-screw on the extruder gear, it's likely that it has been permanently press-fit onto the motor shaft. It is possible to remove the gear if you have something like a Dremel to cut it off, however, do note that it would be a permanent modification, and that your warranty (if you had any) would be void. If you do go this route, be careful not to Dremel into the shaft of the motor, as this would likely cause the new gear to not fit properly.

If this is a new printer, I would recommend assembling it with the stock extruder assembly first, and ordering a secondary extruder motor without the gear press-fit onto its shaft. Then you could swap them out and not need to worry about damaging the existing motor.


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### Answer by username_13 on 2021-05-26. Score: 0

Same problem here. I removed it by force using a pliers and a hammer, then drill a spot on the shaft using ikea drill. Everything works fine so far.


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