<p>The flow calibration (also known as extrusion multiplier) must be <a href="https://ellis3dp.com/Print-Tuning-Guide/articles/extrusion_multiplier.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">calibrated</a> each time <strong>at least one</strong> of the following ones are changed:</p>
<ul>
<li>type of filament (ABS, PLA, PLA+ which counts differently, ...)</li>
<li>filament brand</li>
<li>extruder+hotend+nozzle</li>
<li>(some people say also) filament colour</li>
</ul>
<p>If you switch from CHT to non-CHT, clearly the nozzle has changed and you should at least verify the flow rate/extrusion multiplier. Maybe just test a range of +-2% without having to test the whole 90-105% range as you would do for a completely new material.</p>

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<p><em>Flow compensation</em>, the slicer feature you seem to be talking about, is about the material properties of the thermoplastic you're printing - its thermal expansion and corresponding shrinkage when it cools, as well as how much the extrusion path cross-section deviates from the ideal model the slicer uses to determine how much material to extruder. It is a percentage to compensate by.</p>
<p><em>Flow rate</em> is how much volume of material you can push through the nozzle per unit time, and typically has units of mm³/s. I think what you're getting confused by is that CHT <em>enables a higher flow rate</em> - this means it lets you push more material through the nozzle in the same amount of time. That has nothing to do with flow compensation and does not mean you should change it.</p>
<p>In theory it's <em>possible</em> that you've upped your flow compensation to compensate for slippage in the extruder gear from already trying to go faster than your extruder can really push, and that you no longer have to do this with a CHT. But that was a really sloppy compensation to begin with, if you did it, and would have led to really inconsistent, speed-dependent extrusion.</p>
<p>I suppose it's also possible that the differing melt consistency from a CHT will make the extrusion path cross section more closely match the ideal, which could affect the optimal flow compensation to use. But I have not seen any evidence to that effect.</p>
<p>In short: you don't need to do anything with your flow compensation. Whatever you saw about CHT and flows was not talking about flow compensation.</p>

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<p>I'm waiting for some Core Heating Technology (CHT) nozzles to arrive which I will then use to do flow calibration. For now I'm however trying to understand flow rate in relation to CHT.</p>
<p>Does a CHT nozzle always require a much higher flow rate compared to 'regular' nozzles or can I use the same flow rate?</p>

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What do you mean by "require"? The point is to *allow* a higher flow rate, not to "require" it.
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I know. But I mean relative to normal nozzles. In other words: Can I use the same flow rate for CHT as for non-CHT nozzles? I'll change it, I think the intention is more clear that way.
Bob Ortiz
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Are you talking about flow rate compensation in the slicer?
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Yes, that's what I meant.
Bob Ortiz
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Can I use the same flow rate for Core Heating Technology (CHT) nozzles as for non-CHT nozzles?
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# Can I use the same flow rate for Core Heating Technology (CHT) nozzles as for non-CHT nozzles?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2024-01-30)

I'm waiting for some Core Heating Technology (CHT) nozzles to arrive which I will then use to do flow calibration. For now I'm however trying to understand flow rate in relation to CHT.

Does a CHT nozzle always require a much higher flow rate compared to 'regular' nozzles or can I use the same flow rate?

**Tags:** nozzle, cht, flow
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: What do you mean by "require"? The point is to *allow* a higher flow rate, not to "require" it.  
> **username_0**: I know. But I mean relative to normal nozzles. In other words: Can I use the same flow rate for CHT as for non-CHT nozzles? I'll change it, I think the intention is more clear that way.  
> **username_1**: Are you talking about flow rate compensation in the slicer?  
> **username_0**: Yes, that's what I meant.  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2024-02-01. Score: 1

The flow calibration (also known as extrusion multiplier) must be [calibrated](https://ellis3dp.com/Print-Tuning-Guide/articles/extrusion_multiplier.html) each time **at least one** of the following ones are changed:

* type of filament (ABS, PLA, PLA+ which counts differently, ...)
* filament brand
* extruder+hotend+nozzle
* (some people say also) filament colour

If you switch from CHT to non-CHT, clearly the nozzle has changed and you should at least verify the flow rate/extrusion multiplier. Maybe just test a range of +-2% without having to test the whole 90-105% range as you would do for a completely new material.


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### Answer by username_1 on 2024-01-30. Score: 1

*Flow compensation*, the slicer feature you seem to be talking about, is about the material properties of the thermoplastic you're printing - its thermal expansion and corresponding shrinkage when it cools, as well as how much the extrusion path cross-section deviates from the ideal model the slicer uses to determine how much material to extruder. It is a percentage to compensate by.

*Flow rate* is how much volume of material you can push through the nozzle per unit time, and typically has units of mm³/s. I think what you're getting confused by is that CHT *enables a higher flow rate* - this means it lets you push more material through the nozzle in the same amount of time. That has nothing to do with flow compensation and does not mean you should change it.

In theory it's *possible* that you've upped your flow compensation to compensate for slippage in the extruder gear from already trying to go faster than your extruder can really push, and that you no longer have to do this with a CHT. But that was a really sloppy compensation to begin with, if you did it, and would have led to really inconsistent, speed-dependent extrusion.

I suppose it's also possible that the differing melt consistency from a CHT will make the extrusion path cross section more closely match the ideal, which could affect the optimal flow compensation to use. But I have not seen any evidence to that effect.

In short: you don't need to do anything with your flow compensation. Whatever you saw about CHT and flows was not talking about flow compensation.


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