<p>Axis should definitely be at proper position. Otherwise you will get at least 2 issues.</p>

<ol>
<li>Carriage will be pulled up which will cause stresses on rollers or slides and it will stress your belt</li>
<li>The way the carriage will go will change but because carriage itself is fixed then it will change the speed</li>
</ol>

<p>3D printing is a precise process. Both issues will have impact on printouts and all your printouts will have broken dimension in the axis in which carriage moves.</p>

<p>Have a look on the picture (it is big to show details)</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/maQ3j.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/maQ3j.png" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>

<p><strong>fig A</strong> shows a situation where carriage is far from the axis</p>

<p>In such situation the distance between vertical line of black cross and pink circle is almost unnoticable so both - the force and the distance (so speed) change are very small.</p>

<p><strong>fig B</strong> shows a situation where carriage is relatively close to the axis</p>

<p>Then both - the force and the distance change is noticable </p>

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2016-08-19T10:53:25.607Z
Thanks so much for that precise comment, but I gotta say I exaggerated a lot on the paint picture. The distance between the original shaft and the new stepper motor shaft is probably about 5mm or so. I suppose the print problems is of course dependent of the distance between the shafts so maybe if the distance is small, the problems are not noticeable (I hope so) ?
Blunderboss
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2016-08-19T11:06:07.010Z
The higher difference in position the bigger effects. But the issue is that this "error" in not constant - it changes while carriage moves. It means your printouts will also be distorted non linear... But please remeber - 3D printing is preise process. Half milimeter is usually 2 times nozzle diam.
darth pixel
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2016-08-19T11:11:00.657Z
Damn, building a 3d printer from scratch is really hard... Thanks again for your answers.
Blunderboss
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darth pixel
<p>A rotation of the stepper motor 90 degrees clockwise or counter-clockwise would move it more to the center.  You would only need lengthen or shorten the belt.</p>

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2016-08-25T09:28:39.130Z
according to my experience the most of stepper motors (especially those used in cheap or home made) in 3D printers have rectangular shape and the shaft in in the center (precisely). As an exception I can pint geared stepper motors but I suppose it's not the issue here. So What do you mean by "rotation would move it to the center"?
darth pixel
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2016-08-25T15:21:37.597Z
As you state most are square with four point mounting shaft in center.  Not knowing how the offset shaft motor is mounted can only expect it is four point or two point or clamp.  But should be able to unbolt from the mounting plate and rotate the whole motor on the shaft axis.
spicetraders
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2016-08-25T15:35:22.593Z
He said - no room, which means for me - no room.
darth pixel
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2016-08-25T16:36:07.373Z
I understood no room was for changing stepper to a different one.  Not from rotation of existing.
spicetraders
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2016-08-25T16:42:58.787Z
5 min limit edits   What I was trying to say is the large circle the chassis or the stepper.  If it is the stepper then why no rotation, if it is the chassis then I understand the shaft is stuck to top of chassis and only option is a different smaller stepper.
spicetraders
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spicetraders
<p>I'm currently attempting to  make a repstrap using paper printed parts, like this guy : <a href="http://www.mariolukas.de/2012/05/repstrap-3d-drucker-aus-computerschrott-teil-1/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://www.mariolukas.de/2012/05/repstrap-3d-drucker-aus-computerschrott-teil-1/</a>
I replaced the DC motor in a paper printer carriage assembly</p>

<p>with a stepper motor (NEMA17). But there was not enough space to fit the axis of the nema 17 at the exact spot of the older DC motor axis, in short, the axis are not in the same place. The question is : if the axis is not in the exact same spot, will it affect the movement of the carriage or not at all ?<a href="https://i.sstatic.net/8A21q.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/8A21q.png" alt="new and old belt driven axis"></a></p>

<p>I supposed it would but i'm not sure since the carriage is limited in movement by the rails and that we still move the belt around.</p>

<reprap><belt>
Belt driven axis question
Blunderboss
# Belt driven axis question

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-08-19)

I'm currently attempting to make a repstrap using paper printed parts, like this guy : <http://www.mariolukas.de/2012/05/repstrap-3d-drucker-aus-computerschrott-teil-1/>
I replaced the DC motor in a paper printer carriage assembly

with a stepper motor (NEMA17). But there was not enough space to fit the axis of the nema 17 at the exact spot of the older DC motor axis, in short, the axis are not in the same place. The question is : if the axis is not in the exact same spot, will it affect the movement of the carriage or not at all ?[![new and old belt driven axis](https://i.sstatic.net/8A21q.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/8A21q.png)

I supposed it would but i'm not sure since the carriage is limited in movement by the rails and that we still move the belt around.

**Tags:** reprap, belt

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2016-08-19. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

Axis should definitely be at proper position. Otherwise you will get at least 2 issues.

1. Carriage will be pulled up which will cause stresses on rollers or slides and it will stress your belt
2. The way the carriage will go will change but because carriage itself is fixed then it will change the speed

3D printing is a precise process. Both issues will have impact on printouts and all your printouts will have broken dimension in the axis in which carriage moves.

Have a look on the picture (it is big to show details)

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/maQ3j.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/maQ3j.png)

**fig A** shows a situation where carriage is far from the axis

In such situation the distance between vertical line of black cross and pink circle is almost unnoticable so both - the force and the distance (so speed) change are very small.

**fig B** shows a situation where carriage is relatively close to the axis

Then both - the force and the distance change is noticable

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Thanks so much for that precise comment, but I gotta say I exaggerated a lot on the paint picture. The distance between the original shaft and the new stepper motor shaft is probably about 5mm or so. I suppose the print problems is of course dependent of the distance between the shafts so maybe if the distance is small, the problems are not noticeable (I hope so) ?  
> **username_1**: The higher difference in position the bigger effects. But the issue is that this "error" in not constant - it changes while carriage moves. It means your printouts will also be distorted non linear... But please remeber - 3D printing is preise process. Half milimeter is usually 2 times nozzle diam.  
> **username_0**: Damn, building a 3d printer from scratch is really hard... Thanks again for your answers.  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2016-08-25. Score: 0

A rotation of the stepper motor 90 degrees clockwise or counter-clockwise would move it more to the center. You would only need lengthen or shorten the belt.

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: according to my experience the most of stepper motors (especially those used in cheap or home made) in 3D printers have rectangular shape and the shaft in in the center (precisely). As an exception I can pint geared stepper motors but I suppose it's not the issue here. So What do you mean by "rotation would move it to the center"?  
> **username_2**: As you state most are square with four point mounting shaft in center.  Not knowing how the offset shaft motor is mounted can only expect it is four point or two point or clamp.  But should be able to unbolt from the mounting plate and rotate the whole motor on the shaft axis.  
> **username_1**: He said - no room, which means for me - no room.  
> **username_2**: I understood no room was for changing stepper to a different one.  Not from rotation of existing.  
> **username_2**: 5 min limit edits   What I was trying to say is the large circle the chassis or the stepper.  If it is the stepper then why no rotation, if it is the chassis then I understand the shaft is stuck to top of chassis and only option is a different smaller stepper.  

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