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<p>Yes, glass warps when hot. Use a physical touch sensor and calibrate it out, or swap glass if it's &quot;bad&quot;.</p>
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<p>The further you go into mechanical studies like 3d printing, mills, and lathes, you will find out that nothing is perfectly flat. Everything has a tolerance to it, whether the manufacturer provided it or not. Better manufacturers provide the tolerance data.</p>
<p>As you have or will find out, <em>yes</em>, glass does warp when heated. That is because you are not warming the glass evenly. When hot and cold spots form in glass, the glass tends to warp up or down, depending how the heat travels.</p>
<p>It's common for 0.01 mm warp when a glass bed is brought to printing temps (60-100 °C). If one has a larger format bed, like my Vulcanus at 500x500, 0.03 mm changes are possible.</p>
<p>One can remediate this warping, as it usually appears in the same place during the heat cycle. So if you calibrate <strong>after the bed is heated</strong>, you should reduce said errors. Another more comprehensive way to fix this, is with a physical touch sensor and create a grid map of the bed geometry.</p>

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Thanks. I ended up sending the glass back. It was more like .1 to .2 mm, perhaps even more (my means of measuring isn't that accurate). We'll see how the next one looks.
Steve In CO
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<p>Yes, glass will warp. Think about it this way: the edges cannot be as hot as the centre if you use uniform heating, because they lose heat more quickly.</p>

<p>If the edges are colder, they are also shorter than the hotter centre, which expands more.</p>

<p>If the centre is longer than the edges, it will bend to accommodate the extra length.</p>

<p>You can solve it by placing extra heating along the edges. Once you heat the edges more than the centre, the edges will pull apart the centre, which will result in a flat centre. However, the edges will deform as well, you need just a bit of stretch of the centre, but not so much that it pulls the edges back.</p>

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FarO
<p>Glass will not change its shape you can watch this interesting video: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j9fa86jiv0" rel="nofollow noreferrer">YouTube - Fix Your Bowed Glass Build Surface - CR-10 3D Printer </a>.</p>

<p>Or simply change your glass. </p>

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2018-08-07T07:09:39.660Z
Whilst this may theoretically answer the question, [it would be preferable](//meta.stackoverflow.com/q/8259) to include the essential parts of the answer here, and provide the link for reference.
0scar
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If you could add the main points from the video to your answer then that would be great. If the video is deleted, then your answer will not be so useful.
Greenonline
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Himanshu
<p>I purchased a glass bed to use with my still-in-transit Ender 3. Since the bed came in before the printer, I pulled it out and used a flat edge ruler to see how flat the glass surface is. </p>

<p>It appears the glass is slightly "dished" in the center from one side and "raised" in the center on the other side. I am wondering if this is a sign of a defective glass, or if it is likely that the glass may change shape slightly as it is heated?</p>

<p>If it does change shape, should it be put with the dish side up or down? </p>

<p>Logic would say that if it does change shape, the bottom would probably get hotter since it is against the heater while the top is slightly cooler, so in theory the bottom may expand more "pulling" the center down?</p>

<p>I guess the bottom line is, should I send the glass back as defective or wait until the printer arrives and see what happens when I heat it up?</p>

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2019-11-05T15:51:04.187Z
I wonder about supporting the glass near the center.
Technophile
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Will a glass bed warp as it is heated?
Steve In CO
# Will a glass bed warp as it is heated?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-08-06)

I purchased a glass bed to use with my still-in-transit Ender 3. Since the bed came in before the printer, I pulled it out and used a flat edge ruler to see how flat the glass surface is.

It appears the glass is slightly "dished" in the center from one side and "raised" in the center on the other side. I am wondering if this is a sign of a defective glass, or if it is likely that the glass may change shape slightly as it is heated?

If it does change shape, should it be put with the dish side up or down?

Logic would say that if it does change shape, the bottom would probably get hotter since it is against the heater while the top is slightly cooler, so in theory the bottom may expand more "pulling" the center down?

I guess the bottom line is, should I send the glass back as defective or wait until the printer arrives and see what happens when I heat it up?

**Tags:** heated-bed, bed-leveling, glass-bed
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: I wonder about supporting the glass near the center.  

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_4 on 2018-08-07. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

Glass will not change its shape you can watch this interesting video: [YouTube - Fix Your Bowed Glass Build Surface - CR-10 3D Printer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j9fa86jiv0) .

Or simply change your glass.

> **Comments:**
> **username_5**: Whilst this may theoretically answer the question, [it would be preferable](//meta.stackoverflow.com/q/8259) to include the essential parts of the answer here, and provide the link for reference.  
> **username_6**: If you could add the main points from the video to your answer then that would be great. If the video is deleted, then your answer will not be so useful.  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2018-08-08. Score: 8

### TL;DR

Yes, glass warps when hot. Use a physical touch sensor and calibrate it out, or swap glass if it's "bad".

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The further you go into mechanical studies like 3d printing, mills, and lathes, you will find out that nothing is perfectly flat. Everything has a tolerance to it, whether the manufacturer provided it or not. Better manufacturers provide the tolerance data.

As you have or will find out, *yes*, glass does warp when heated. That is because you are not warming the glass evenly. When hot and cold spots form in glass, the glass tends to warp up or down, depending how the heat travels.

It's common for 0.01 mm warp when a glass bed is brought to printing temps (60-100 °C). If one has a larger format bed, like my Vulcanus at 500x500, 0.03 mm changes are possible.

One can remediate this warping, as it usually appears in the same place during the heat cycle. So if you calibrate **after the bed is heated**, you should reduce said errors. Another more comprehensive way to fix this, is with a physical touch sensor and create a grid map of the bed geometry.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Thanks. I ended up sending the glass back. It was more like .1 to .2 mm, perhaps even more (my means of measuring isn't that accurate). We'll see how the next one looks.  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2019-11-06. Score: 1

Yes, glass will warp. Think about it this way: the edges cannot be as hot as the centre if you use uniform heating, because they lose heat more quickly.

If the edges are colder, they are also shorter than the hotter centre, which expands more.

If the centre is longer than the edges, it will bend to accommodate the extra length.

You can solve it by placing extra heating along the edges. Once you heat the edges more than the centre, the edges will pull apart the centre, which will result in a flat centre. However, the edges will deform as well, you need just a bit of stretch of the centre, but not so much that it pulls the edges back.


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