<p>The shavings come in part from the extruder design: there is no fillet on the pulling in side, the filament goes up in a sharp angle and is dragged over a rather sharp edge. It also brushes against the leadscrew.</p>
<p>To help with the shavings, you should alter the filament path to try and have a flatter angle than the 90°. A simple rod that pushes out the filament to come in at 80° might already reduce the number of shavings.</p>
<p>More might be reduced by opening the entry hole of the filament to have a 1-2 mm phase around it, altering the angle of the edge that the filament runs against to a much lower one and reducing the ability to shave off flakes. I did swap my extruder for an aluminium one, and it has this phase, and since then I have had little to no shavings at that spot anymore.</p>

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Based on OP's description of how the problem came on, and the model (which looks like it has **a lot** of retraction), this seems like it's probably indeed the problem, but I never saw anything like that in something like 18 months of use of the Ender 3's original extruder. I wonder if something else is going on too.
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2021-05-06T00:36:27.730Z
And the canonical solution for OP's problem is this: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3052488
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@R..GitHubSTOPHELPINGICE I had those shavings, and the little change of a simple bar pushing out the filament 10 cm on the top and the other extruder all but eliminated them
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Yeah my "canonical" solution might be overengineered, but I really liked it when I was still using the original Creality extruder because it was so bad at gripping filament, and any extra tension in the filament path seemed to cause intermittent extrusion problems.
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Yeah, it was only happening with this one print. I'm going to try that roller bearing one though. Thanks for your help, everyone.
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<p>I'm printing a <a href="https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:271769" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Tower of Pi</a> on my Ender 3, and I woke up to find this near the extruder:</p>
<p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/dEH1M.jpg" alt="Powder and shavings piled up in front of the extruder" /></p>
<p>All my attempts to google this led to checking for either a clogged nozzle or the extruder itself stripping the filament, neither of which appears to be the case.</p>
<p>It looks like the upper edge of the filament might be grinding against the intake hole, so I looked into lubrication, but the consensus appears to be &quot;don't&quot;.</p>
<p>Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a name for it, and how do I fix it?</p>

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2021-05-05T18:51:21.913Z
Are you sure that you are feeding the material along the recommended route? It looks like an approach closer to "straight in" would be less likely to erode the inbound filament.
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@Davo The instructions didn't mention a recommended route, but come to think of it I can move the filament spool holder from the top to the side and see if that helps.
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# Excessive filament powder/shavings near the extruder

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-05-05)

I'm printing a [Tower of Pi](https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:271769) on my Ender 3, and I woke up to find this near the extruder:

![Powder and shavings piled up in front of the extruder](https://i.sstatic.net/dEH1M.jpg)

All my attempts to google this led to checking for either a clogged nozzle or the extruder itself stripping the filament, neither of which appears to be the case.

It looks like the upper edge of the filament might be grinding against the intake hole, so I looked into lubrication, but the consensus appears to be "don't".

Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a name for it, and how do I fix it?

**Tags:** creality-ender-3, filament, troubleshooting
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Are you sure that you are feeding the material along the recommended route? It looks like an approach closer to "straight in" would be less likely to erode the inbound filament.  
> **username_0**: @Davo The instructions didn't mention a recommended route, but come to think of it I can move the filament spool holder from the top to the side and see if that helps.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2021-05-05. Score: 2 | Accepted answer

The shavings come in part from the extruder design: there is no fillet on the pulling in side, the filament goes up in a sharp angle and is dragged over a rather sharp edge. It also brushes against the leadscrew.

To help with the shavings, you should alter the filament path to try and have a flatter angle than the 90°. A simple rod that pushes out the filament to come in at 80° might already reduce the number of shavings.

More might be reduced by opening the entry hole of the filament to have a 1-2 mm phase around it, altering the angle of the edge that the filament runs against to a much lower one and reducing the ability to shave off flakes. I did swap my extruder for an aluminium one, and it has this phase, and since then I have had little to no shavings at that spot anymore.

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: Based on OP's description of how the problem came on, and the model (which looks like it has **a lot** of retraction), this seems like it's probably indeed the problem, but I never saw anything like that in something like 18 months of use of the Ender 3's original extruder. I wonder if something else is going on too.  
> **username_3**: And the canonical solution for OP's problem is this: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3052488  
> **username_2**: @R..GitHubSTOPHELPINGICE I had those shavings, and the little change of a simple bar pushing out the filament 10 cm on the top and the other extruder all but eliminated them  
> **username_3**: Yeah my "canonical" solution might be overengineered, but I really liked it when I was still using the original Creality extruder because it was so bad at gripping filament, and any extra tension in the filament path seemed to cause intermittent extrusion problems.  
> **username_0**: Yeah, it was only happening with this one print. I'm going to try that roller bearing one though. Thanks for your help, everyone.  

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