<p>After a bit of searching, the only remotely Greek-based altlang I've found is <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Altlangs/comments/4yjksn/eressilian_a_neohittite_altlang/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Eressilian</a>, which is mentioned only in the above Reddit post. It claims to be the result of the evolution of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittite_language" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Hittite language</a>, after mixing with other languages in the region surrounding Asia Minor. These languages (notably Persian, Arabic, and Greek) mainly contributed loanwords, which were then modified and incorporated. Unfortunately, little information is given, and there's no substantial vocabulary list. The only supposedly "Greek" word given is <em>adelphotés</em>, which - matching sentences word for word - seems to have been turned into <em>elelpulush</em>. I haven't been able to determine its meaning or origin.</p>

<p>Some notes on Eressilian:</p>

<ul>
<li>The Hittite language was an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatolian_languages" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Anatolian language</a>, which may or may not be "daughter languages" in the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_languages" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Indo-European family</a>. A competing hypothesis is that it is instead a sister language family, developing separately, rather than a branch.</li>
<li>The modern Greek language is a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenic_languages" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Hellenic language</a>, definitely Indo-European; Persian is also Indo-European, an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Iranian_languages" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Indo-Iranian language</a>. Arabic, on the other hand, is an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroasiatic_languages" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Afroasiatic language</a>, not Indo-European. This means that there any purely Hellenic influence will be reduced.</li>
<li>Eressilian's notable loss of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_gender" rel="nofollow noreferrer">grammatical gender</a> is likely a Persian influence, not Greek.</li>
</ul>

<p>In short, Greek influence on Eressilian is largely only through loanwords, and is not shown in grammatical structures. It's there, but it's minor.</p>

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<ul>
<li><p><a href="http://www.carolandray.plus.com/TAKE/index.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><strong>TAKE</strong></a> is Το Ἄνευ Κλίσι Ἑλληνική / Greek Without Inflexions. According to <a href="http://www.carolandray.plus.com/TAKE/index.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Ray Brown</a>, "Graeca sine flexione" ... (considers) what Greek might be like if stripped of its inflexions in the manner similar to Giuseppe Peano's Latino sine Flexione... It should be pointed out that although Giuseppe Peano produced 'Latino sine flexione' as an international auxiliary language, I am NOT making a similar proposal for ΤΑΚΕ!</p></li>
<li><p><a href="http://www.carolandray.plus.com/Outis/index.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><strong>Outidic</strong></a> is a kind of IAL for the learned, statesmen &amp; merchants alike.</p>

<p><em>These are both by Ray Brown of Conlang-L.</em></p></li>
<li><p><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/conlangs/comments/4sxd2w/a_quick_intro_to_%C3%A8skova_an_indoeuropean_conlang/" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><strong>Èskova Linga</strong></a></p></li>
<li><p><a href="https://conlang.mizinamo.org/blog/2008/10/10/new-conlang-engadinese-greek-with-romansh-sound-changes/" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><strong>Engadinese</strong></a> is a Greek-Romansch <a href="https://www.frathwiki.com/Bogolang" rel="nofollow noreferrer">graftlang</a>.</p></li>
<li><p><a href="https://www.frathwiki.com/Lost_Conlangs#Atlo-Greek" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><strong>Atlo Greek</strong></a> appears now to be entirely lost.</p></li>
<li><p><a href="http://www.frathwiki.com/Conlang_Relay_15/Rhaetian" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><strong>Rhaetian</strong></a></p></li>
</ul>

<p>There may be others...</p>

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Pity the TAKE site seems to be down; but if TAKE was inspired by Latino Sine Flexione, it'd have been an auxlang, not an altlang...
Nick Nicholas
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Ah, turns out it's a fictional counterpart to Latino sine Flexione, so it's an artlang auxlang.
Nick Nicholas
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@NickNicholas It's from an alternate history in which Peano worked from Greek?
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@NickNicholas -- Definitely NOT an auxlang!
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<p>The Wikipedia article on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artistic_language#Alternative_languages" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Artistic languages</a> says in its current version</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>What if Greek civilization had gone on to thrive without a Roman Empire, leaving Greek and not Latin to develop several modern descendants? </p>
</blockquote>

<p>But in the ongoing text no Greek based altlangs are mentioned.</p>

<p>What are examples of Greek based altlangs?</p>

<diachronics><list-of-languages>
Greek-based altlangs
# Greek-based altlangs

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-02-26)

The Wikipedia article on [Artistic languages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artistic_language#Alternative_languages) says in its current version

> What if Greek civilization had gone on to thrive without a Roman Empire, leaving Greek and not Latin to develop several modern descendants?

But in the ongoing text no Greek based altlangs are mentioned.

What are examples of Greek based altlangs?

**Tags:** diachronics, list-of-languages

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2018-02-27. Score: 11 | Accepted answer

* [**TAKE**](http://www.carolandray.plus.com/TAKE/index.html) is Το Ἄνευ Κλίσι Ἑλληνική / Greek Without Inflexions. According to [Ray Brown](http://www.carolandray.plus.com/TAKE/index.html), "Graeca sine flexione" ... (considers) what Greek might be like if stripped of its inflexions in the manner similar to Giuseppe Peano's Latino sine Flexione... It should be pointed out that although Giuseppe Peano produced 'Latino sine flexione' as an international auxiliary language, I am NOT making a similar proposal for ΤΑΚΕ!
* [**Outidic**](http://www.carolandray.plus.com/Outis/index.html) is a kind of IAL for the learned, statesmen & merchants alike.

  *These are both by Ray Brown of Conlang-L.*
* [**Èskova Linga**](https://www.reddit.com/r/conlangs/comments/4sxd2w/a_quick_intro_to_%C3%A8skova_an_indoeuropean_conlang/)
* [**Engadinese**](https://conlang.mizinamo.org/blog/2008/10/10/new-conlang-engadinese-greek-with-romansh-sound-changes/) is a Greek-Romansch [graftlang](https://www.frathwiki.com/Bogolang).
* [**Atlo Greek**](https://www.frathwiki.com/Lost_Conlangs#Atlo-Greek) appears now to be entirely lost.
* [**Rhaetian**](http://www.frathwiki.com/Conlang_Relay_15/Rhaetian)

There may be others...

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: Pity the TAKE site seems to be down; but if TAKE was inspired by Latino Sine Flexione, it'd have been an auxlang, not an altlang...  
> **username_3**: Ah, turns out it's a fictional counterpart to Latino sine Flexione, so it's an artlang auxlang.  
> **username_4**: @NickNicholas It's from an alternate history in which Peano worked from Greek?  
> **username_2**: @NickNicholas -- Definitely NOT an auxlang!  

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### Answer by username_1 on 2018-02-26. Score: 4

After a bit of searching, the only remotely Greek-based altlang I've found is [Eressilian](https://www.reddit.com/r/Altlangs/comments/4yjksn/eressilian_a_neohittite_altlang/), which is mentioned only in the above Reddit post. It claims to be the result of the evolution of the [Hittite language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittite_language), after mixing with other languages in the region surrounding Asia Minor. These languages (notably Persian, Arabic, and Greek) mainly contributed loanwords, which were then modified and incorporated. Unfortunately, little information is given, and there's no substantial vocabulary list. The only supposedly "Greek" word given is *adelphotés*, which - matching sentences word for word - seems to have been turned into *elelpulush*. I haven't been able to determine its meaning or origin.

Some notes on Eressilian:

* The Hittite language was an [Anatolian language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatolian_languages), which may or may not be "daughter languages" in the [Indo-European family](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_languages). A competing hypothesis is that it is instead a sister language family, developing separately, rather than a branch.
* The modern Greek language is a [Hellenic language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenic_languages), definitely Indo-European; Persian is also Indo-European, an [Indo-Iranian language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Iranian_languages). Arabic, on the other hand, is an [Afroasiatic language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroasiatic_languages), not Indo-European. This means that there any purely Hellenic influence will be reduced.
* Eressilian's notable loss of [grammatical gender](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_gender) is likely a Persian influence, not Greek.

In short, Greek influence on Eressilian is largely only through loanwords, and is not shown in grammatical structures. It's there, but it's minor.


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