<p>My lame attempt at analyzing Black Speech in Amazon's show: <a href="https://un4givenorc.blogspot.com/2023/07/orcish-black-speech-in-amazons-rings-of.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://un4givenorc.blogspot.com/2023/07/orcish-black-speech-in-amazons-rings-of.html</a>
Would be glad, if anyone corrects misheard phrases or suggest other Elvish etymologies.</p>
<p><strong>EDIT:</strong> Neo Black Speech for Amazon's show is obviously not based on any previous attempts. But whoever was responsible for it, seems to have an approach similar to Shadowlandian: some words are derived from other languages invented by J.R.R. Tolkien. Neo-BS in ROP has a higher degree of agglutination.</p>
<p>Some phrases that have clear meaning:</p>
<ul>
<li>Nampat! - wasn't translated in English, but official Russian    subtitles and some media articles have a translation: &quot;Death!&quot;, but the correct one would probably be &quot;Die!&quot;.</li>
<li>Nampak uglursha - in the context probably some equivalent of &quot;Rest    in peace&quot;, &quot;nampat&quot; (see above) seems has meaning &quot;die&quot;; other    options include: Gnomish &quot;nam-&quot; (to withdraw, retire); &quot;ak&quot; is probably some grammatical or objective clitic pronoun; &quot;uglur&quot; may be derived from Adunaic &quot;aglar&quot; (glory), however &quot;ugl-&quot; in other Neo-BS dialects means &quot;to frighten, scare&quot;; &quot;-sha&quot; is probably postposition &quot;with&quot;, used as preposition in Orc-curse</li>
<li>Izmûmbogh - I smell him! - my guess was &quot;I can feel (him)&quot; &lt; Gnomish &quot;ist-&quot; (feeling, sense), &quot;og-&quot; (can, be able / adjective suffix / agental suffix); Sindarin &quot;im&quot; (I, 1st person singular pronoun)</li>
<li>Kishdibatoth! - Search it! &lt; Quenya &quot;ces(ta)&quot; (to search for,
examine); &quot;ib&quot; - probably some grammatical suffix; &quot;-at&quot; BS infinitive/gerund/participle suffix expressing intention or purpose; &quot;oth&quot; &lt; Sindarin &quot;eth&quot; (any 3rd person pronoun) or &quot;ed&quot; (it), could be also from early Noldorin &quot;os&quot; (around)</li>
</ul>

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<p>In the latest episodes of <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power" rel="noreferrer">The Rings of Power</a></em>, several orcs say something in Black Speech, which is not translated in the subtitles. I had a brief look on the web, but cannot find anything about the meaning of these phrases.</p>
<p>Has anybody come across an analysis of that, and whether/how it fits in with previous attempts at reconstructing Black Speech from known fragments?</p>

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New examples for Black Speech in Rings of Power
# New examples for Black Speech in Rings of Power

(Asked by: username_0 on 2022-09-22)

In the latest episodes of *[The Rings of Power](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power)*, several orcs say something in Black Speech, which is not translated in the subtitles. I had a brief look on the web, but cannot find anything about the meaning of these phrases.

Has anybody come across an analysis of that, and whether/how it fits in with previous attempts at reconstructing Black Speech from known fragments?

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### Answer by username_1 on 2022-10-03. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

My lame attempt at analyzing Black Speech in Amazon's show: <https://un4givenorc.blogspot.com/2023/07/orcish-black-speech-in-amazons-rings-of.html>
Would be glad, if anyone corrects misheard phrases or suggest other Elvish etymologies.

**EDIT:** Neo Black Speech for Amazon's show is obviously not based on any previous attempts. But whoever was responsible for it, seems to have an approach similar to Shadowlandian: some words are derived from other languages invented by J.R.R. Tolkien. Neo-BS in ROP has a higher degree of agglutination.

Some phrases that have clear meaning:

* Nampat! - wasn't translated in English, but official Russian subtitles and some media articles have a translation: "Death!", but the correct one would probably be "Die!".
* Nampak uglursha - in the context probably some equivalent of "Rest in peace", "nampat" (see above) seems has meaning "die"; other options include: Gnomish "nam-" (to withdraw, retire); "ak" is probably some grammatical or objective clitic pronoun; "uglur" may be derived from Adunaic "aglar" (glory), however "ugl-" in other Neo-BS dialects means "to frighten, scare"; "-sha" is probably postposition "with", used as preposition in Orc-curse
* Izmûmbogh - I smell him! - my guess was "I can feel (him)" < Gnomish "ist-" (feeling, sense), "og-" (can, be able / adjective suffix / agental suffix); Sindarin "im" (I, 1st person singular pronoun)
* Kishdibatoth! - Search it! < Quenya "ces(ta)" (to search for,
  examine); "ib" - probably some grammatical suffix; "-at" BS infinitive/gerund/participle suffix expressing intention or purpose; "oth" < Sindarin "eth" (any 3rd person pronoun) or "ed" (it), could be also from early Noldorin "os" (around)

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: The quoted web page may go away, leaving this answer quite stale. Could you add the content from that web page to the answer?  
> **username_1**: Most translations are purely speculative, so I will not quote everything here, at least until 1st season ends.  

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