<p>You might be able to write custom flight control software for a multi-copter that would simulate this. You might get close just by radically limiting the pitch and roll rates and being gentle on the throttle. In either case it wouldn't be intrinsic to the design.</p>
<p>If you want smooth, soaring flight, you'd be best to build a fixed wing model with a fairly large wing span and low weight, similar to a soaring bird. A basic electric motor-glider like a Bixler is quite a popular FPV platform because they fly fairly slowly and smoothly, and are easy to fly (which is important when you're trying to make sense of the view through goggles).</p>

CC BY-SA 4.0
2020-10-09T14:24:22.407Z
2020-10-09T14:24:22.407Z
Robin Bennett
<p>(Edit: The original version of this question asked about &quot;drones&quot; in general. This answer was based on the question pre-edit, hence the clarification of drones vs. quadcopters.)</p>
<p>First, a word of clarification. A drone is just <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drone" rel="nofollow noreferrer">any unmanned aircraft</a>. The specific <em>type</em> of drone you described in your first paragraph is called a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadcopter" rel="nofollow noreferrer">quadcopter</a>.</p>
<p>Now, if you were asking specifically about quadcopters, the answer is yes, it's entirely possible to simulate smooth, stable flight. The pilot can do this themselves, through careful control. It's also possible to rewrite the control software to limit the available acceleration, thus forcing smooth, &quot;natural&quot; flight. However, I don't know of any commercially available quads that do this, because the major advantage they have over fixed-wing aircraft is their maneuverability.</p>
<p>If you were asking about drones in general, though, the best way to do that would be to get a fixed-wing drone. There are plenty of remote-controlled airplanes available that wouldn't have to &quot;simulate&quot; anything, since they are actually gliding and turning like a bird.</p>

CC BY-SA 4.0
2020-10-10T01:20:49.380Z
2020-10-19T13:39:26.733Z
2020-10-19T13:39:26.733Z
HiddenWindshield
<p>The premise of your question is based on fairly limited observation of aviation.</p>
<p>First there are many fixed wing &quot;drones&quot;.  They just haven't been as prevalent in the <em>consumer</em> market as in the segments of the hobby market that grew out of the longstanding R/C aircraft hobby, and in the professional market.</p>
<p>Next, in terms of rotary wing flight, it's important to realize that while most <em>beginners</em> fly small quadcopters or model helicopters from an outside or &quot;line of sight&quot; perspective in a very &quot;cartesian&quot; way, actual helicopter pilots (full scale or model) and FPV drone racing pilots execute <em>forward flight</em> in a way fairly similar to fixed wing aircraft.</p>
<p>Sure a &quot;real helicopter&quot; can hover, fly sideway, fly backwards - but when flying <em>around</em> their flight paths are not unlike those of fixed wing aircraft.  They don't yaw around to a new heading, they make banked turns.  In fact their flight patterns can be so similar that not only is air to air refueling a current practice, actually <em>towing</em> a helicopter with a fixed-wing transport is a past one (abandoned because of the risk and pilot fatigue, not because it didn't work)</p>
<p>So, if you want smooth gliding-style flight with gradual, coordinated banked turns, you can either use an aircraft type which <em>has</em> to do that, or use an aircraft type which <em>can</em> do that, and have the human or software pilot operate it in such a manner.</p>
<p>If you want &quot;flapping&quot; flight, then you either build an ornithopter, or you take a sufficiently <em>agile</em> platform such as a quadcopter, and program it to simulate that.</p>

CC BY-SA 4.0
2020-10-11T19:27:59.553Z
There is a reason why helicopters are mostly flown like airplanes, and that is that *when flown that way*, the rotor disc partially acts like a wing and generates lift (and the fuselage does, too), which makes the flight more efficient. Many modern high-speed helicopters have stub wings, for example. Not only for attaching weapons hard points. Hovering is *really* inefficient. For the same reason, helicopters take off with forward velocity when possible, instead of straight up.
Jörg W Mittag
CC BY-SA 4.0
2020-10-10T02:27:40.027Z
2020-10-10T02:33:46.970Z
2020-10-10T02:33:46.970Z
Chris Stratton
<p>&quot;Drones are small helicopters&quot;: False.  Drones are fixed prop and that mechanical difference alone places the devices in a unique category.  The actual differences are many.  It should also be mentioned that &quot;drone&quot; covers a wide range of devices, the proper term would be multirotor or specifically fixed prop multirotor.</p>
<p>&quot;They cannot glide&quot;: False, I limp back using glide and auto-rotation type skills to inductively charge the battery and coast.  Gliding is totally possible with low RPM for stability. Not the same as a powerless glide, but similar in the sense of floating on a cushion.  Propellers during forward flight can offer lift, just like a heli.</p>
<p>&quot;most drones move in very straight lines, of same altitude, with sharp turns&quot;: Not at all.  My speciality is plane like flight.  I have burnt at least 2000 flights doing controlled figure 8 bank turns to master the style. I only do abrupt turns as needed, otherwise I seek flow where planes and birds are my inspiration. Indeed, many of my flights are essentially identical to wing flight.</p>
<p>&quot;results in quite unnatural &quot;flight experience&quot;&quot;: What is natural?  Or, more to the point, natural is totally subjective based on the experience of the individual.  My flights I consider very natural in the vein of how I would fly if you gave me a high performance hovercraft. A heli flight is natural to a heli pilot while a glider flight is natural to a pilot of that craft.</p>
<p>&quot;any drones which would be able to simulate a more &quot;natural&quot; flying experience&quot;:  YES, first understand that most of the experience is the skill of the pilot.  A racer will not necessarily have chops for complex long multi-axes maneuvers (I can't slam gates very well FWIW).  RotorX played with a hybrid glider/FPV drone - I don't think it ever got off the ground (I saw testing footage a few years ago).  Andy Shen (ShenDrones) had an old unit he would bring to the field that was very &quot;aircraft like&quot; in flight with mixed props, custom mix controls, and hit 90mph (in NYC fields - that was fun).</p>
<p>&quot;Are there such drones which are capable of this,&quot;: Again, look to the pilot more than anything.  I am quite capable of long parabolic turns on almost any drone provided the rate, expo, and tune permits. Additionally, most FPV drones (my overwhelming speciality) fly in &quot;rate&quot; or &quot;acro&quot; where the control is raw (no stabilization, no auto level, no GPS, no guidance, only orientation and throttle). These types of flight provide full dominion over orientation as well as thrust, as a result the style of flight is trivial for skilled pilot/mechanic.</p>
<p>I will concede that true gliding, be it a variation of helicopter autorotation or controlled no-thrust glides, are generally not possible using a drone.  We get close, and in many circumstances props, even at low RPM, do perform similar to a wing. We reserve the potential to dip into this behavior, it is not central to the flight paradigm.</p>
<p>A last note, harkening back to Andy Shen's drone I referenced.  He used custom mix controls to facilitate the flights.  Mix controls (if used) along with rate, expo, and tune are the determining factors for how a flight performs. Racing demands a certain type of tune for sharp turns, rapid reversal, and low-to-ground flight.  Beyond configuration, there are MANY experimental drones out there operating in a hybrid manner a few examples:</p>
<ul>
<li>Aforementioned RotorX unit, talk to them</li>
<li>The Stingray 500 by Curtis Youngblood could in theory autorotate and glide. Here is a review via FT <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnGhEInTXYc" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnGhEInTXYc</a></li>
<li>Various hybrid (generally commercial) drones - search out &quot;VTOL&quot; (vertical take off and landing) to find many hybrid &quot;winged&quot; drones.</li>
</ul>
<p>If you have any questions or want some example flights please reach out to me directly.</p>

CC BY-SA 4.0
2020-10-13T20:27:37.283Z
2020-10-13T20:27:37.283Z
FunHog.me
<p>Drone capable of smooth, gliding, birdlike flight?</p>
<p>Possible, and done. (Missiles optional)</p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/PZpks.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/PZpks.png" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>

CC BY-SA 4.0
2020-10-11T13:27:54.630Z
You can order it on Amazon for like $50: https://www.amazon.com/Airplanes-Wingspan-Channels-Airplane-Crazepony/dp/B07J3VPSRK/
Quora Feans
CC BY-SA 4.0
2020-10-10T22:50:33.923Z
2020-10-10T22:50:33.923Z
Phil Frost
<p>Actually, because quads hover they have flight characteristics that are more sophisticated than most birds except hummingbirds. If you want something off-the-shelf, buy a Cypher by Flex Innovations.</p>

CC BY-SA 4.0
2022-02-28T18:26:18.943Z
2022-02-28T18:26:18.943Z
seabirdman
<p>Multirotors are small rotorcraft with flight dynamics which result in an unnatural &quot;flight experience&quot;.</p>
<p>Are there multirotor autopilots which would be able to simulate a more &quot;natural&quot; flying experience? E.g. an experience of flying plane which has more weight and a gliding capability, or as a bird which alters wing beats with gliding phases? I.e. a multirotor capable of flying in smooth curves, moving in <strong>parabolic curves altitude-wise (and thus simulating smooth glides)</strong>, as well as <strong>smooth left/right turns</strong>? This would probably require some more advanced logic simulating these smooth curves using &quot;helicopter&quot; movements. Are there such drones which are capable of this, using very simple controls for the user?</p>

CC BY-SA 4.0
2020-10-10T07:31:41.597Z
@ChrisStratton well, the premise of my question was based on my limited knowledge which I intended to expand by this very question :-) Learning process, nothing wrong - especially because 99% drones you normally see are following this premise...  ;-) Thanks for answer and expanding my perspective :-)
Tomas
CC BY-SA 4.0
2020-10-10T22:48:39.390Z
_drone_ n. a remote-controlled pilotless aircraft or missile. I believe the thing you are describing is a _quadcopter_.
Phil Frost
CC BY-SA 4.0
2020-10-18T16:26:57.787Z
@TMS your definition of "drone" is very wrong. I believe you are talking about multi-rotors. Which are not helicopters, although they are all rotorcraft. Furthermore, multirotors cannot change direction very quickly, they're among the least agile of all the powered aircraft. I edited your question to reflect this. Let me know if you disagree with what I've changed.
Kenn Sebesta
<flight-controller><flight-characteristics><fixed-wing>
Drones capable of smooth plane/bird-like flight
Tomas
# Drones capable of smooth plane/bird-like flight

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-10-09)

Multirotors are small rotorcraft with flight dynamics which result in an unnatural "flight experience".

Are there multirotor autopilots which would be able to simulate a more "natural" flying experience? E.g. an experience of flying plane which has more weight and a gliding capability, or as a bird which alters wing beats with gliding phases? I.e. a multirotor capable of flying in smooth curves, moving in **parabolic curves altitude-wise (and thus simulating smooth glides)**, as well as **smooth left/right turns**? This would probably require some more advanced logic simulating these smooth curves using "helicopter" movements. Are there such drones which are capable of this, using very simple controls for the user?

**Tags:** flight-controller, flight-characteristics, fixed-wing
> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: @ChrisStratton well, the premise of my question was based on my limited knowledge which I intended to expand by this very question :-) Learning process, nothing wrong - especially because 99% drones you normally see are following this premise...  ;-) Thanks for answer and expanding my perspective :-)  
> **username_1**: _drone_ n. a remote-controlled pilotless aircraft or missile. I believe the thing you are describing is a _quadcopter_.  
> **username_2**: @TMS your definition of "drone" is very wrong. I believe you are talking about multi-rotors. Which are not helicopters, although they are all rotorcraft. Furthermore, multirotors cannot change direction very quickly, they're among the least agile of all the powered aircraft. I edited your question to reflect this. Let me know if you disagree with what I've changed.  

---

## 6 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2020-10-09. Score: 10

You might be able to write custom flight control software for a multi-copter that would simulate this. You might get close just by radically limiting the pitch and roll rates and being gentle on the throttle. In either case it wouldn't be intrinsic to the design.

If you want smooth, soaring flight, you'd be best to build a fixed wing model with a fairly large wing span and low weight, similar to a soaring bird. A basic electric motor-glider like a Bixler is quite a popular FPV platform because they fly fairly slowly and smoothly, and are easy to fly (which is important when you're trying to make sense of the view through goggles).


---

### Answer by username_4 on 2020-10-10. Score: 9

(Edit: The original version of this question asked about "drones" in general. This answer was based on the question pre-edit, hence the clarification of drones vs. quadcopters.)

First, a word of clarification. A drone is just [any unmanned aircraft](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drone). The specific *type* of drone you described in your first paragraph is called a [quadcopter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadcopter).

Now, if you were asking specifically about quadcopters, the answer is yes, it's entirely possible to simulate smooth, stable flight. The pilot can do this themselves, through careful control. It's also possible to rewrite the control software to limit the available acceleration, thus forcing smooth, "natural" flight. However, I don't know of any commercially available quads that do this, because the major advantage they have over fixed-wing aircraft is their maneuverability.

If you were asking about drones in general, though, the best way to do that would be to get a fixed-wing drone. There are plenty of remote-controlled airplanes available that wouldn't have to "simulate" anything, since they are actually gliding and turning like a bird.


---

### Answer by username_5 on 2020-10-10. Score: 3

The premise of your question is based on fairly limited observation of aviation.

First there are many fixed wing "drones". They just haven't been as prevalent in the *consumer* market as in the segments of the hobby market that grew out of the longstanding R/C aircraft hobby, and in the professional market.

Next, in terms of rotary wing flight, it's important to realize that while most *beginners* fly small quadcopters or model helicopters from an outside or "line of sight" perspective in a very "cartesian" way, actual helicopter pilots (full scale or model) and FPV drone racing pilots execute *forward flight* in a way fairly similar to fixed wing aircraft.

Sure a "real helicopter" can hover, fly sideway, fly backwards - but when flying *around* their flight paths are not unlike those of fixed wing aircraft. They don't yaw around to a new heading, they make banked turns. In fact their flight patterns can be so similar that not only is air to air refueling a current practice, actually *towing* a helicopter with a fixed-wing transport is a past one (abandoned because of the risk and pilot fatigue, not because it didn't work)

So, if you want smooth gliding-style flight with gradual, coordinated banked turns, you can either use an aircraft type which *has* to do that, or use an aircraft type which *can* do that, and have the human or software pilot operate it in such a manner.

If you want "flapping" flight, then you either build an ornithopter, or you take a sufficiently *agile* platform such as a quadcopter, and program it to simulate that.

> **Comments:**
> **username_6**: There is a reason why helicopters are mostly flown like airplanes, and that is that *when flown that way*, the rotor disc partially acts like a wing and generates lift (and the fuselage does, too), which makes the flight more efficient. Many modern high-speed helicopters have stub wings, for example. Not only for attaching weapons hard points. Hovering is *really* inefficient. For the same reason, helicopters take off with forward velocity when possible, instead of straight up.  

---

### Answer by username_7 on 2020-10-13. Score: 2

"Drones are small helicopters": False. Drones are fixed prop and that mechanical difference alone places the devices in a unique category. The actual differences are many. It should also be mentioned that "drone" covers a wide range of devices, the proper term would be multirotor or specifically fixed prop multirotor.

"They cannot glide": False, I limp back using glide and auto-rotation type skills to inductively charge the battery and coast. Gliding is totally possible with low RPM for stability. Not the same as a powerless glide, but similar in the sense of floating on a cushion. Propellers during forward flight can offer lift, just like a heli.

"most drones move in very straight lines, of same altitude, with sharp turns": Not at all. My speciality is plane like flight. I have burnt at least 2000 flights doing controlled figure 8 bank turns to master the style. I only do abrupt turns as needed, otherwise I seek flow where planes and birds are my inspiration. Indeed, many of my flights are essentially identical to wing flight.

"results in quite unnatural "flight experience"": What is natural? Or, more to the point, natural is totally subjective based on the experience of the individual. My flights I consider very natural in the vein of how I would fly if you gave me a high performance hovercraft. A heli flight is natural to a heli pilot while a glider flight is natural to a pilot of that craft.

"any drones which would be able to simulate a more "natural" flying experience": YES, first understand that most of the experience is the skill of the pilot. A racer will not necessarily have chops for complex long multi-axes maneuvers (I can't slam gates very well FWIW). RotorX played with a hybrid glider/FPV drone - I don't think it ever got off the ground (I saw testing footage a few years ago). Andy Shen (ShenDrones) had an old unit he would bring to the field that was very "aircraft like" in flight with mixed props, custom mix controls, and hit 90mph (in NYC fields - that was fun).

"Are there such drones which are capable of this,": Again, look to the pilot more than anything. I am quite capable of long parabolic turns on almost any drone provided the rate, expo, and tune permits. Additionally, most FPV drones (my overwhelming speciality) fly in "rate" or "acro" where the control is raw (no stabilization, no auto level, no GPS, no guidance, only orientation and throttle). These types of flight provide full dominion over orientation as well as thrust, as a result the style of flight is trivial for skilled pilot/mechanic.

I will concede that true gliding, be it a variation of helicopter autorotation or controlled no-thrust glides, are generally not possible using a drone. We get close, and in many circumstances props, even at low RPM, do perform similar to a wing. We reserve the potential to dip into this behavior, it is not central to the flight paradigm.

A last note, harkening back to Andy Shen's drone I referenced. He used custom mix controls to facilitate the flights. Mix controls (if used) along with rate, expo, and tune are the determining factors for how a flight performs. Racing demands a certain type of tune for sharp turns, rapid reversal, and low-to-ground flight. Beyond configuration, there are MANY experimental drones out there operating in a hybrid manner a few examples:

* Aforementioned RotorX unit, talk to them
* The Stingray 500 by Curtis Youngblood could in theory autorotate and glide. Here is a review via FT <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnGhEInTXYc>
* Various hybrid (generally commercial) drones - search out "VTOL" (vertical take off and landing) to find many hybrid "winged" drones.

If you have any questions or want some example flights please reach out to me directly.


---

### Answer by username_1 on 2020-10-10. Score: 1

Drone capable of smooth, gliding, birdlike flight?

Possible, and done. (Missiles optional)

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/PZpks.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/PZpks.png)

> **Comments:**
> **username_8**: You can order it on Amazon for like $50: https://www.amazon.com/Airplanes-Wingspan-Channels-Airplane-Crazepony/dp/B07J3VPSRK/  

---

### Answer by username_9 on 2022-02-28. Score: -1

Actually, because quads hover they have flight characteristics that are more sophisticated than most birds except hummingbirds. If you want something off-the-shelf, buy a Cypher by Flex Innovations.


---

