<p>The short answer is, yes. According to <a href="https://www.qsl.net/kk4obi/Center-fed%20L-Dipoles%20Horizontal.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">testing done here</a> there is an observed 3db loss when folding the bottom half of a dipole which would be the same effect as cutting your output power in half. </p>

<p>See this graph from the link above. At the bottom in red is the bend of the antenna and the blue line is the gain.</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/ti2yp.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ti2yp.png" alt="Bent dipole performance graph"></a></p>

<p>The 'T' antenna is called a dipole and it's a very common antenna design. Changing the shape of the antenna will almost always change the antenna's gain and radiation pattern. Unless you have tested very carefully or are following a known and tested antenna design, chances are you aren't improving its performance. <a href="https://www.qsl.net/kk4obi/Center-fed%20L-Dipoles%20Horizontal.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">This article</a> describes what one person went through to test folding a dipole by 90 degrees. Other things to keep in mind, the L shape allows your antenna to be polarized in two directions, while it might have worse reception under certain circumstances it may be better in others. This could be especially useful on a quad in situations where the orientation of the antenna would not be straight up and down. </p>

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2020-04-15T18:42:15.240Z
Wow, excellent analysis! I though something similar was the correct answer but didn't have any sources or background to base my answer off of.
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<p>Is there any detrimental effect on signal reception when mounting crossfire antennas in the Immortal "L" orientation compared to the traditional "T"?</p>

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Could you describe what you mean by the "L" mounting pattern? "T" makes sense given the shape of the antenna, but I can't picture an "L" layout.
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Tried to upload an image but it keeps failing.  If you Google Mr. Steele Immortal "L" you'll find a YouTube video where he breakdowns how he makes one.  Essentially he take three zip ties and orientates the antennas 90° from each other to form an "L" in order to mount them to the back of the drone and stay away from the props.
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Crossfire signal strength - comparing Immortal "L" vs "T"
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# Crossfire signal strength - comparing Immortal "L" vs "T"

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-04-15)

Is there any detrimental effect on signal reception when mounting crossfire antennas in the Immortal "L" orientation compared to the traditional "T"?

**Tags:** antenna, crossfire
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Could you describe what you mean by the "L" mounting pattern? "T" makes sense given the shape of the antenna, but I can't picture an "L" layout.  
> **username_0**: Tried to upload an image but it keeps failing.  If you Google Mr. Steele Immortal "L" you'll find a YouTube video where he breakdowns how he makes one.  Essentially he take three zip ties and orientates the antennas 90° from each other to form an "L" in order to mount them to the back of the drone and stay away from the props.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2020-04-15. Score: 9 | Accepted answer

The short answer is, yes. According to [testing done here](https://www.qsl.net/kk4obi/Center-fed%20L-Dipoles%20Horizontal.html) there is an observed 3db loss when folding the bottom half of a dipole which would be the same effect as cutting your output power in half.

See this graph from the link above. At the bottom in red is the bend of the antenna and the blue line is the gain.

[![Bent dipole performance graph](https://i.sstatic.net/ti2yp.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/ti2yp.png)

The 'T' antenna is called a dipole and it's a very common antenna design. Changing the shape of the antenna will almost always change the antenna's gain and radiation pattern. Unless you have tested very carefully or are following a known and tested antenna design, chances are you aren't improving its performance. [This article](https://www.qsl.net/kk4obi/Center-fed%20L-Dipoles%20Horizontal.html) describes what one person went through to test folding a dipole by 90 degrees. Other things to keep in mind, the L shape allows your antenna to be polarized in two directions, while it might have worse reception under certain circumstances it may be better in others. This could be especially useful on a quad in situations where the orientation of the antenna would not be straight up and down.

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Wow, excellent analysis! I though something similar was the correct answer but didn't have any sources or background to base my answer off of.  

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