<p>Here are some directions that might help you move forward</p>
<p><strong>1. Do I need 2 relay nodes?</strong></p>
<p>It is not necessary to have two relay nodes but <strong>each stake pool must run at least one block-producing node and one relay node</strong>. The block-producing node holds the keys and certificates necessary to issue blocks and rewards payments, but it should not be directly connected to the network because you don't want to be exposed.</p>
<p>For security reasons, <strong>it must be connected only to one or more relay nodes <strong>controlled by the stake pool operator</strong></strong>. Then, the relay nodes connect to other relays on the network. This setup is configured in the <em>topology.json</em> file.</p>
<p><strong>2. Are the server requirements for a relay node the same as those of a block producer?</strong></p>
<p>Officially, the minimum required is the same for a BP and a relay node. However, from my personal experience with equivalent servers the relays consume on average slightly more RAM.
<a href="https://i.sstatic.net/qST5j.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qST5j.png" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
<p><strong>3. For a start, is there a specific pledge amount with no delegators yet, that would have chances of producing a block?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>You need to have 500 ADA for the pool deposit</li>
<li>It is not a question of knowing if you are going to produce a block
or not for such or such amount of stake/pledge but rather to know how often?
With 100k ADA your pool will produce about 7 blocks per year. You can take 5 minutes to read this interesting thread <em><a href="https://forum.cardano.org/t/current-operators-actual-cost-to-operate-vs-actual-returns-thoughts/59158/10" rel="nofollow noreferrer">&quot;Actual Cost to Operate vs Actual Returns thoughts?&quot;</a></em> on the official Cardano forum.</li>
</ul>

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2021-09-18T22:17:50.797Z
2021-09-18T22:17:50.797Z
baocontact
<p>You do not need two relays nodes, in fact, you do not need even a relay, but it is a recommended practice.</p>
<p>Yes, the requirement is for the <em>cardano-node</em> and it is same being a relay, as well as a block producer.</p>
<p>Right now, you need little bit more than 1M ADA to mint a block.</p>

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Marek Mahut - StakeNuts
<p>I am in the initial steps of creating a stake pool and I've learnt that I need a block producer and a relay node. For the process of getting AWS instances, I would like to know:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do I need two relay nodes?</li>
<li>Are the server requirements for a relay node the same as those of a block producer?</li>
<li>For a start, is there a specific pledge amount with no delegators yet, that would have chances of producing a block?</li>
</ul>

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Setting up a stake pool relay node
# Setting up a stake pool relay node

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-09-06)

I am in the initial steps of creating a stake pool and I've learnt that I need a block producer and a relay node. For the process of getting AWS instances, I would like to know:

* Do I need two relay nodes?
* Are the server requirements for a relay node the same as those of a block producer?
* For a start, is there a specific pledge amount with no delegators yet, that would have chances of producing a block?

**Tags:** stake-pool, cardano-node

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2021-09-18. Score: 3

Here are some directions that might help you move forward

**1. Do I need 2 relay nodes?**

It is not necessary to have two relay nodes but **each stake pool must run at least one block-producing node and one relay node**. The block-producing node holds the keys and certificates necessary to issue blocks and rewards payments, but it should not be directly connected to the network because you don't want to be exposed.

For security reasons, **it must be connected only to one or more relay nodes **controlled by the stake pool operator****. Then, the relay nodes connect to other relays on the network. This setup is configured in the *topology.json* file.

**2. Are the server requirements for a relay node the same as those of a block producer?**

Officially, the minimum required is the same for a BP and a relay node. However, from my personal experience with equivalent servers the relays consume on average slightly more RAM.
[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/qST5j.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/qST5j.png)

**3. For a start, is there a specific pledge amount with no delegators yet, that would have chances of producing a block?**

* You need to have 500 ADA for the pool deposit
* It is not a question of knowing if you are going to produce a block
  or not for such or such amount of stake/pledge but rather to know how often?
  With 100k ADA your pool will produce about 7 blocks per year. You can take 5 minutes to read this interesting thread *["Actual Cost to Operate vs Actual Returns thoughts?"](https://forum.cardano.org/t/current-operators-actual-cost-to-operate-vs-actual-returns-thoughts/59158/10)* on the official Cardano forum.


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### Answer by username_2 on 2021-09-06. Score: 3

You do not need two relays nodes, in fact, you do not need even a relay, but it is a recommended practice.

Yes, the requirement is for the *cardano-node* and it is same being a relay, as well as a block producer.

Right now, you need little bit more than 1M ADA to mint a block.


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