<p>In Cantonese sense, 折 and 摺 are completely different words with different pronunciation. 折 (tsit8) means "split" and "break" while 摺 (tsip8 or tsap8) means "fold". They are not interchangeable.  In the evolution of Mandarin they converge to sound zhé finally, and people get confused.</p>

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<p>I had the impression that both 折 / 摺 mean "to fold", but 折 means "to fold only once", while 摺 only means "to fold only more then once". i.e. one-fold vs multi-fold. (In both verbal and noun context)</p>

<p>I don't think that they are simplified/traditional variants to each other -- but I have less knowledge in this part.</p>

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<p>According to the dictionary in my phone, 折 have two meanings. One is pronounced Zhe2, which means to break or fold something, this is same as 摺. The another one is pronounced she2 means having been broken, which is not the same as 摺.</p>

<p>And there is a note saying that when there might be confusion use 摺 according to the simplified Chinese character chart even though it has been simplified as 折.</p>

<p>Buy the way, it seems 摺 can only be pronounced as zhe2</p>

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<p>I've seen ​摺 (almost intentionally I would assume) written in numerous simplified texts, especially with the word ​<code>摺叠​</code>.</p>

<p>Here's one example (emphasis is my own):</p>

<p><a href="http://m.zjol.com.cn/mzjol/details.html?newsid=020533282" rel="nofollow">浙江在线 《以“色”诱人 专属定制》</a></p>

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  <p>浙江在线·住在杭州网3月3日消息 一方飘逸的丝巾，<strong>摺</strong>叠间营造出许多迥异的情调，变幻出万种风情。不同颜色、不同戴法，搭配出多少不同的你，或端庄秀丽、或热情奔放、或甜美娇人，让你摇曳生姿，变的生动而魅力。</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Grand Ricci seems to like this simplification too, it contains an entry for ​摺叠​ but none for 折叠.</p>

<p>Guifan has the following footnote:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>注意 “摺”简化为“折”, 但在“摺”和“折”意义可能混淆时, 《简化字总表》规定仍用“摺”。</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Which doesn't totally clear things up, really.</p>

<ul>
<li><p>What reason would 摺 be used in simplified texts as opposed to 折?</p></li>
<li><p>Is this a regional variant? (i.e.: TW/HK vs. Mainland, etc.)</p></li>
<li><p>Where would 折 and 摺 have different meanings? (Like mentioned in Guifan?)</p></li>
</ul>

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Why ​摺 in Simplified Texts and not 折?
# Why ​摺 in Simplified Texts and not 折?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2015-03-12)

I've seen ​摺 (almost intentionally I would assume) written in numerous simplified texts, especially with the word ​`摺叠​`.

Here's one example (emphasis is my own):

[浙江在线 《以“色”诱人 专属定制》](http://m.zjol.com.cn/mzjol/details.html?newsid=020533282)

> 浙江在线·住在杭州网3月3日消息 一方飘逸的丝巾，**摺**叠间营造出许多迥异的情调，变幻出万种风情。不同颜色、不同戴法，搭配出多少不同的你，或端庄秀丽、或热情奔放、或甜美娇人，让你摇曳生姿，变的生动而魅力。

Grand Ricci seems to like this simplification too, it contains an entry for ​摺叠​ but none for 折叠.

Guifan has the following footnote:

> 注意 “摺”简化为“折”, 但在“摺”和“折”意义可能混淆时, 《简化字总表》规定仍用“摺”。

Which doesn't totally clear things up, really.

* What reason would 摺 be used in simplified texts as opposed to 折?
* Is this a regional variant? (i.e.: TW/HK vs. Mainland, etc.)
* Where would 折 and 摺 have different meanings? (Like mentioned in Guifan?)

**Tags:** traditional-vs-simplified
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: 如果要学繁体字，最好顺便学习书法。推荐 从 欧体 开始学习。字体钢筋有力，适合为人正直的人。 中国有句古话，见字如见人， 意思是说看你的写字就知道你的为人。学习中文，书法是一个很好的选择。  
> **username_1**: 我有一个错别字，是 刚劲有力， 而不是钢筋有力  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2015-03-13. Score: 4

In Cantonese sense, 折 and 摺 are completely different words with different pronunciation. 折 (tsit8) means "split" and "break" while 摺 (tsip8 or tsap8) means "fold". They are not interchangeable. In the evolution of Mandarin they converge to sound zhé finally, and people get confused.


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### Answer by username_3 on 2015-03-14. Score: 1

I had the impression that both 折 / 摺 mean "to fold", but 折 means "to fold only once", while 摺 only means "to fold only more then once". i.e. one-fold vs multi-fold. (In both verbal and noun context)

I don't think that they are simplified/traditional variants to each other -- but I have less knowledge in this part.


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### Answer by username_4 on 2015-03-14. Score: 0

According to the dictionary in my phone, 折 have two meanings. One is pronounced Zhe2, which means to break or fold something, this is same as 摺. The another one is pronounced she2 means having been broken, which is not the same as 摺.

And there is a note saying that when there might be confusion use 摺 according to the simplified Chinese character chart even though it has been simplified as 折.

Buy the way, it seems 摺 can only be pronounced as zhe2


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