<p>The pinyin cì is not right, cè is the correct one. Hope that would be helpful for you.</p>

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2018-08-16T08:18:31.427Z
That was my mistake. I copied the pinyin from the entry below 次. Any other hints on the sound in European phonetic syllables?
user5389726598465
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2018-08-16T08:27:01.030Z
if you know pinyin well,it's easy to understand that cè is like 特 which changes t to c
Jee
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2018-08-16T08:28:44.983Z
I hear a c to t change and am beginning pinyin. What sound is being made by this word?
user5389726598465
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2018-08-16T08:40:46.323Z
let me think about it for a while
Jee
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2018-08-16T08:56:15.163Z
now we need two words,"hats" and "her",select "ts" from "hats" and "er" from "her",and then splice them together.
Jee
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2018-08-16T09:13:11.110Z
But remember,don't roll up your tongue when you pronounce "er".Because è has no satisfactory equivalent in English.
Jee
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2018-08-16T08:16:51.387Z
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Jee
<p><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A8%81%E5%A6%A5%E7%91%AA%E6%8B%BC%E9%9F%B3" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/威妥瑪拼音</a></p>

<p>/ce/ in IPA is [tsʰɯʌ]</p>

<p>I think it's natural if you perceive /e/ as "wuh".</p>

<p>furthermore, at least it sounds to me that when native English speakers pronounce the letter "t", their tongues are more retracted, i.e. the middle area of the tongue touches palate, which creates some friction and thus makes it sound like "ts" to me.</p>

<p>following this logic backwards, it also makes sense that you mistake /c/ in Chinese for "t" in English.</p>

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2018-08-21T09:43:22.347Z
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Xiaoxiong Lin
<p>I'm trying to understand the sounds of <a href="https://forvo.com/search/%E5%86%8C/zh/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">册</a>. Phonetically I think I'm hearing "twuh", which is nothing like the pinyin cè. What phonetic sounds are being made? Feel free to add another pronunciation at forvo. </p>

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2018-08-16T13:12:44.183Z
What is your native language? Perception of foreign sounds can be strongly influenced by it.
Michaelyus
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2018-08-17T03:10:09.600Z
Maybe not have a satisfactory equivalent if you are familiar with American accent, but in British accent, this is simply the sound of /əː/. Maybe not perfect, but acceptable.
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Pronunciation of 册
# Pronunciation of 册

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-08-16)

I'm trying to understand the sounds of [册](https://forvo.com/search/%E5%86%8C/zh/). Phonetically I think I'm hearing "twuh", which is nothing like the pinyin cè. What phonetic sounds are being made? Feel free to add another pronunciation at forvo.

**Tags:** pronunciation
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: What is your native language? Perception of foreign sounds can be strongly influenced by it.  
> **username_2**: Maybe not have a satisfactory equivalent if you are familiar with American accent, but in British accent, this is simply the sound of /əː/. Maybe not perfect, but acceptable.  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2018-08-16. Score: 2 | Accepted answer

The pinyin cì is not right, cè is the correct one. Hope that would be helpful for you.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: That was my mistake. I copied the pinyin from the entry below 次. Any other hints on the sound in European phonetic syllables?  
> **username_3**: if you know pinyin well,it's easy to understand that cè is like 特 which changes t to c  
> **username_0**: I hear a c to t change and am beginning pinyin. What sound is being made by this word?  
> **username_3**: let me think about it for a while  
> **username_3**: now we need two words,"hats" and "her",select "ts" from "hats" and "er" from "her",and then splice them together.  
> **username_3**: But remember,don't roll up your tongue when you pronounce "er".Because è has no satisfactory equivalent in English.  

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### Answer by username_4 on 2018-08-21. Score: 1

[https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/威妥瑪拼音](https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A8%81%E5%A6%A5%E7%91%AA%E6%8B%BC%E9%9F%B3)

/ce/ in IPA is [tsʰɯʌ]

I think it's natural if you perceive /e/ as "wuh".

furthermore, at least it sounds to me that when native English speakers pronounce the letter "t", their tongues are more retracted, i.e. the middle area of the tongue touches palate, which creates some friction and thus makes it sound like "ts" to me.

following this logic backwards, it also makes sense that you mistake /c/ in Chinese for "t" in English.


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