<blockquote>
  <p>跟進此問題，題中之印</p>
</blockquote>

<p>圖略</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Ｘ是何字，解之有難。僅看字形，個人釋之爲「亘」，而@水巷孑蠻釋之爲「亙」，因漢朝既無「亘帝」也無「亙帝」，二解都有問題。</p>
</blockquote>

<p>nice try, just some corners of vernacular chinese. practise more, you can master the writing of literary chinese :)</p>

<p>may i suggest:</p>

<p>緣前題雖解．而一疑尚存．固起此問求真</p>

<p>斯印存六字．其五已釋．惟漢後皇前之刻．亘乎．亙乎．眾說紛紜．未審孰是孰非．再者．漢世無亘．亙之諡．益添困惑</p>

<p>back to basic, a seal is for <strong>authentication</strong>, to make a stamping that other can recognised the stamped document as authentic, from a individual, or an entity.</p>

<p>the seal in question just declare "descendent of a particular emperor of 漢 dynasty".</p>

<p>any mr 劉 can make such claim, so?</p>

<p>next, the text "漢ｘ皇帝後裔" is redundant &amp; ugly. "漢室宗親"; 4 characters are enough for this purpose.</p>

<p>last, 亙 (u+4e99) is suggested, well, because the 漢語多功能字庫 do not has 亘 (u+4e98)</p>

<p><a href="http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E4%BA%98" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=亘</a></p>

<p>and, the 國語辭典 claimed 亘 (u+4e98) as variant of 亙 (u+4e99)</p>

<p><a href="http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?o=dcbdic&amp;searchid=W00000070331" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?o=dcbdic&amp;searchid=W00000070331</a></p>

<p>i need to read more, before making any sound judgement :(</p>

<p>last, relax, treat it as a "hello kitty stamp" :)</p>

<p>what i want to say is, hello kitty is based on a cat, it does not have a line to represent a mouth, and, it's "tail" is a circle only.</p>

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yes, don't "waste" too much efforts on this one. have fun :)
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Well I initially thought it was a badly made seal on a TV show. Just thought it may have had an alternative interpretation :)
dROOOze
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sound interesting :)
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<p>It could simply be 室 as in 漢室 (Han dynasty)</p>

<p><a href="https://zidian.wenku1.com/%E5%AE%A4/qiyuan.shtml" rel="nofollow noreferrer">「室」字的起源《说文解字》</a></p>

<p>"漢室皇帝後裔" (Han Dynasty emperor descendant) make a lot of sense</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/Gei30.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Gei30.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>

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<p>跟進<a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/31166/what-are-the-six-characters-on-this-seal">此問題</a>，題中之印</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/QyvoP.jpg" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/QyvoP.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>

<p>共收六字，其中五字無疑，作爲</p>

<p><H1><kbd>後皇漢<br>裔帝Ｘ</kbd></H1></p>

<p>Ｘ是何字，解之有難。僅看字形，個人釋之爲「亘」，而@水巷孑蠻釋之爲「亙」，因漢朝既無「亘帝」也無「亙帝」，二解都有問題。</p>

<p>先說說「亘」與「亙」二字的字源。二者在秦漢之後已經就被混淆了，甚至到今世多釋之爲繁簡或異體關係，非也。</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>「亘」字本義是環繞、迴旋，很可能跟「還」、「漩」等類似的詞有同源關係，但初期竝無「亘」字而以「回」字當之，然後世「亘」字从「回」字分化。「回」是象形字，像迴旋流水，本義今作「洄」。</p>
  
  <p><H1><kbd>商<br>甲<br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/MZoph.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/MZoph.png" alt="enter image description here"></a><br><a href="http://xiaoxue.iis.sinica.edu.tw/yanbian/Reference/JiaguwenReference" rel="noreferrer">甲</a>903<br><a href="http://www.guoxuedashi.com/jgwhj/?bhfl=1&amp;bh=34165&amp;jgwfl=" rel="noreferrer">合集34165</a></kbd><kbd>楚<br><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-hk/%E7%AE%80%E7%89%8D" rel="noreferrer">簡</a><br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/HyQHC.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/HyQHC.png" alt="enter image description here"></a><br><a href="http://xiaoxue.iis.sinica.edu.tw/yanbian/Reference/ChuwenziReference" rel="noreferrer">新</a>3.294<br>　</kbd><kbd>秦<br>簡<br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/TR6Ez.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/TR6Ez.png" alt="enter image description here"></a><br><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%9D%A1%E8%99%8E%E5%9C%B0%E7%A7%A6%E7%AE%80" rel="noreferrer">睡</a>ㆍ<a href="http://xiaoxue.iis.sinica.edu.tw/yanbian/Reference/QinwenziReference" rel="noreferrer">秦</a>148<br>　</kbd><kbd>現代<br>楷<br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/63VWY.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/63VWY.png" alt="enter image description here"></a><br><br>　</kbd></H1></p>
  
  <p>在「回」字上或重複「回」字、或加幾筆橫畫，迺成「亘」。例：</p>
  
  <p><H1><kbd>西周<br>金<br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/rw1Vp.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/rw1Vp.png" alt="enter image description here"></a><br>史墻盤「」<br><a href="http://www.guoxuedashi.com/yzjwjc/?bh=10175&amp;jgwfl=" rel="noreferrer">集成10175</a></kbd><kbd>西周<br>金<br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/22jg5.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/22jg5.png" alt="enter image description here"></a><br>虢季子白盤「」<br><a href="http://www.guoxuedashi.com/yzjwjc/?bh=10173&amp;jgwfl=" rel="noreferrer">集成10173</a></kbd></H1></p>
  
  <p>今「亘」字是傳承以「回」字上加兩筆橫畫竝無重複的結構，其中「回」部件後來變成了「日」形：</p>
  
  <p><H1><kbd><br>篆<br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/1ZPjd.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/1ZPjd.png" alt="enter image description here"></a><br>說文解字<br>　</kbd><kbd>現代<br>楷<br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/xleC7.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/xleC7.png" alt="enter image description here"></a><br><br>　</kbd></H1></p>
  
  <p>「亙」字來源完全不同。「亙」迺「恆」，「㮓」二者的初文，二者是以「亙」上加義符而分化出來的字。「亙」也是象形字，像半月在天地之間。</p>
  
  <p><H1><kbd>商<br>甲<br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/S1eIx.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/S1eIx.png" alt="enter image description here"></a><br><a href="http://xiaoxue.iis.sinica.edu.tw/yanbian/Reference/JiaguwenReference" rel="noreferrer">鐵</a>199.3<br><a href="http://www.guoxuedashi.com/jgwhj/?bhfl=1&amp;bh=14764&amp;jgwfl=" rel="noreferrer">合集14764</a></kbd><kbd>西周<br>金<br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/Iydza.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Iydza.png" alt="enter image description here"></a><br>亙鼎<br><a href="http://www.guoxuedashi.com/yzjwjc/?bh=2380&amp;jgwfl=" rel="noreferrer">集成2380</a>　</kbd><kbd>現代<br>楷<br><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/wBvNP.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/wBvNP.png" alt="enter image description here"></a><br><br>　</kbd></H1></p>
</blockquote>

<p>在今世收集的通用字沒有从「亘」作爲義符的字，而有以「亘」（須緣切）當聲符的字，例如「桓」、「宣」等（「恆」類似以胡登切「亙」部件作爲聲符的字，不以俗體「恒」等當之，免得迷惑）。</p>

<p>漢代無「亘帝」、「亙帝」，但確有</p>

<ul>
<li>漢文帝　劉<strong>恆</strong></li>
<li>漢<strong>宣</strong>帝　劉病已</li>
<li>漢<strong>桓</strong>帝　劉志</li>
</ul>

<p>印璽如果不是完全瞎製的一個玩具，我認爲Ｘ是上面粗體三者其中的一位假借字。查了劉煇《古文字通假字典》（<a href="http://www.guoxuedashi.com/kangxi/pic.php?f=tjzzd&amp;p=722" rel="noreferrer">722頁</a>）之後，個人還是覺得Ｘ是「亘」字。</p>

<blockquote>
  <h2>亘</h2>
  
  <p>4885（元心 xuan）讀為桓（元匣 huan），叠韻</p>
  
  <p>岣嶁碑：＂唯王二年六月丁酉，承嗣越臣憲亘朱句。＂曹錦炎《岣嶁碑研究》云＂憲亘＂即＂憲桓＂，乃＂朱句＂自諡之詞。又馬王堆帛書《春秋事話ㆍ齊桓公與蔡夫人乘舟章》：＂齊亘公與蔡夫人乘周（舟），夫人湯（蕩）周，禁之，不可，怒而歸之......亘公帀（師）以侵蔡，蔡人遂潰。＂＂亘公＂即＂桓公＂，《左傳ㆍ僖公三年》曾記此事，＂齊亘公＂作＂齊侯＂，魯僖公三年即齊桓公二十九年。</p>
</blockquote>

<p>但是，我竝沒搜到有＂漢Ｘ帝＂而以Ｘ作爲通假字的記錄；證據不夠堅强，不可判斷在此印中Ｘ到底是甚麽字。</p>

<p>讀者如何？</p>

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What is the missing character on the seal?
# What is the missing character on the seal?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-08-23)

跟進[此問題](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/31166/what-are-the-six-characters-on-this-seal)，題中之印

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/QyvoP.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/QyvoP.jpg)

共收六字，其中五字無疑，作爲

# `後皇漢 裔帝Ｘ`

Ｘ是何字，解之有難。僅看字形，個人釋之爲「亘」，而@水巷孑蠻釋之爲「亙」，因漢朝既無「亘帝」也無「亙帝」，二解都有問題。

先說說「亘」與「亙」二字的字源。二者在秦漢之後已經就被混淆了，甚至到今世多釋之爲繁簡或異體關係，非也。

> 「亘」字本義是環繞、迴旋，很可能跟「還」、「漩」等類似的詞有同源關係，但初期竝無「亘」字而以「回」字當之，然後世「亘」字从「回」字分化。「回」是象形字，像迴旋流水，本義今作「洄」。
>
> # `商 甲 enter image description here 甲903 合集34165``楚 簡 enter image description here 新3.294``秦 簡 enter image description here 睡ㆍ秦148``現代 楷 enter image description here`
>
> 在「回」字上或重複「回」字、或加幾筆橫畫，迺成「亘」。例：
>
> # `西周 金 enter image description here 史墻盤「」 集成10175``西周 金 enter image description here 虢季子白盤「」 集成10173`
>
> 今「亘」字是傳承以「回」字上加兩筆橫畫竝無重複的結構，其中「回」部件後來變成了「日」形：
>
> # `篆 enter image description here 說文解字``現代 楷 enter image description here`
>
> 「亙」字來源完全不同。「亙」迺「恆」，「㮓」二者的初文，二者是以「亙」上加義符而分化出來的字。「亙」也是象形字，像半月在天地之間。
>
> # `商 甲 enter image description here 鐵199.3 合集14764``西周 金 enter image description here 亙鼎 集成2380``現代 楷 enter image description here`

在今世收集的通用字沒有从「亘」作爲義符的字，而有以「亘」（須緣切）當聲符的字，例如「桓」、「宣」等（「恆」類似以胡登切「亙」部件作爲聲符的字，不以俗體「恒」等當之，免得迷惑）。

漢代無「亘帝」、「亙帝」，但確有

* 漢文帝　劉**恆**
* 漢**宣**帝　劉病已
* 漢**桓**帝　劉志

印璽如果不是完全瞎製的一個玩具，我認爲Ｘ是上面粗體三者其中的一位假借字。查了劉煇《古文字通假字典》（[722頁](http://www.guoxuedashi.com/kangxi/pic.php?f=tjzzd&p=722)）之後，個人還是覺得Ｘ是「亘」字。

> ## 亘
>
> 4885（元心 xuan）讀為桓（元匣 huan），叠韻
>
> 岣嶁碑：＂唯王二年六月丁酉，承嗣越臣憲亘朱句。＂曹錦炎《岣嶁碑研究》云＂憲亘＂即＂憲桓＂，乃＂朱句＂自諡之詞。又馬王堆帛書《春秋事話ㆍ齊桓公與蔡夫人乘舟章》：＂齊亘公與蔡夫人乘周（舟），夫人湯（蕩）周，禁之，不可，怒而歸之......亘公帀（師）以侵蔡，蔡人遂潰。＂＂亘公＂即＂桓公＂，《左傳ㆍ僖公三年》曾記此事，＂齊亘公＂作＂齊侯＂，魯僖公三年即齊桓公二十九年。

但是，我竝沒搜到有＂漢Ｘ帝＂而以Ｘ作爲通假字的記錄；證據不夠堅强，不可判斷在此印中Ｘ到底是甚麽字。

讀者如何？

**Tags:** character-identification, seal
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: 欲辨明此印何不諮詢原題主印璽之出處？  
> **username_0**: @TooskyHierot StackExchange Rules: `Don’t post an answer as a question. If you have a question on a current question, please post a separate question and link it.` (Paraphrased, forgot where I read that)  
> **username_1**: You can comment under the question.  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2018-08-24. Score: 2

> 跟進此問題，題中之印

圖略

> Ｘ是何字，解之有難。僅看字形，個人釋之爲「亘」，而@水巷孑蠻釋之爲「亙」，因漢朝既無「亘帝」也無「亙帝」，二解都有問題。

nice try, just some corners of vernacular chinese. practise more, you can master the writing of literary chinese :)

may i suggest:

緣前題雖解．而一疑尚存．固起此問求真

斯印存六字．其五已釋．惟漢後皇前之刻．亘乎．亙乎．眾說紛紜．未審孰是孰非．再者．漢世無亘．亙之諡．益添困惑

back to basic, a seal is for **authentication**, to make a stamping that other can recognised the stamped document as authentic, from a individual, or an entity.

the seal in question just declare "descendent of a particular emperor of 漢 dynasty".

any mr 劉 can make such claim, so?

next, the text "漢ｘ皇帝後裔" is redundant & ugly. "漢室宗親"; 4 characters are enough for this purpose.

last, 亙 (u+4e99) is suggested, well, because the 漢語多功能字庫 do not has 亘 (u+4e98)

[http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=亘](http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E4%BA%98)

and, the 國語辭典 claimed 亘 (u+4e98) as variant of 亙 (u+4e99)

<http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?o=dcbdic&searchid=W00000070331>

i need to read more, before making any sound judgement :(

last, relax, treat it as a "hello kitty stamp" :)

what i want to say is, hello kitty is based on a cat, it does not have a line to represent a mouth, and, it's "tail" is a circle only.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: yes, don't "waste" too much efforts on this one. have fun :)  
> **username_0**: Well I initially thought it was a badly made seal on a TV show. Just thought it may have had an alternative interpretation :)  
> **username_2**: sound interesting :)  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2018-08-23. Score: 0

It could simply be 室 as in 漢室 (Han dynasty)

[「室」字的起源《说文解字》](https://zidian.wenku1.com/%E5%AE%A4/qiyuan.shtml)

"漢室皇帝後裔" (Han Dynasty emperor descendant) make a lot of sense

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/Gei30.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/Gei30.jpg)


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