<p>At Copenhagen University we are taught that roughly 75% af the Chinese population speak mandarin. 19% speak cantonese, and the left over 6% is divided besween the rest of the 54 minorities in China. China has 55 minorities.  </p>

<p>All children attending school in China have mandarin lectures. </p>

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I asked for native speakers, though, i.e.: speakers from birth not “learned in school”.
Mou某
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Speakers of Cantonese do not constitute an ethnic minority of China. They're Hans.
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I would like to add to what @vermillon said: ethnic minorities are not directly related to dialects. There are Han people (the majority of people in China) who speak dialects as their mother tongue, people from ethnic minorities who speak Mandarin as their mother tongue, and people from ethnic minorities who speak dialects or even completely different languages as their mother tongue.
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<p>The mother tongue would be the language that someone learned at home from their family members</p>
<p>There seems to only be stats for &quot;speaker&quot; amounts and not strictly native speakers.</p>
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<p>Firstly, 'mother tongue' and 'native' are not the same.</p>
<p>My mother tongue is officially Mandarin Chinese, and I used to speak it a lot at home, but my native language is English, which is my strongest language. Well, depending on perspective, people like me might be considered as having two native languages.</p>
<p>If that is so, then everyone whose mother tongue is Mandarin Chinese must be a native speaker, which makes it a subset.</p>
<p>As people whose mother tongue is Mandarin Chinese (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_varieties_of_Chinese#/media/File:Map_of_sinitic_languages_full-en.svg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">836 million</a>) is a subset of people whose native language is Mandarin Chinese, (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_Chinese" rel="nofollow noreferrer">960 million</a>) I think that it is safe to assume that the map provided by @Stan is an accurate depiction of the population whose actual mother tongue is Mandarin Chinese.</p>
<p>Given those numbers, the percentage would be 87%. However, we do know that while some people's official mother tongue is Mandarin Chinese, they may not pursue it, which makes this statistic inaccurate. So there might be around a 10% margin of error if we were to assume that only Chinese people in China pursue their mother tongue as native language.</p>

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Can you define how "mother tongue" and "native tongue" are not the same? You seem to be using a different definition from anything I've read before.
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<p>It is, falsely, assumed that Mandarin is the mother tongue of all Chinese speakers (here we can understand Mandarin as 普通话/国语/华语).</p>

<p>The mother tongue would be the language that someone learned at home from their family members.</p>

<p>I would imagine the mother tongue for most Chinese speakers would be some form of dialect/topolect.</p>

<p>There seems to only be stats for "speaker" amounts and not strictly native speakers.</p>

<p>What is the percentage of the population whose actual mother tongue is Mandarin?</p>

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Possibly can be roughly calculated using the data on [this map](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_varieties_of_Chinese#/media/File:Map_of_sinitic_languages_full-en.svg).
Stan
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The map is a bit misleading the mandarin sector includes many mutually unintelligible languages/dialects/topolects/what-have-you. 河北方言 would be useless in 云南 and vice-versa.
Mou某
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I assume you are asking for percentage of who can speak *standard* Mandarin, I think only Beijing people and some of the Hebei people have the tongue *sounds like* standard Mandarin. Besides that, educated young generations, especially who live in big cities can speak standard Mandarin. I can't give the number, but you can try to find out population data of tier 1 and tier 2 cities of China, and then you can get the information.
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@user3306356 no, that map is accurate. You are assuming that all varieties of Mandarin are mutually intelligible, which is false. In Mandarin's case, it may very well be a [dialect chain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialect_continuum), i.e. neighbouring dialects are understandable but the North/South extremes are not. In any case intelligibility is but one factor determining whether something is a language or dialect.
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My question is: how many native speakers are there of Modern Standard Mandarin (MSM)? I don't care about varieties, only 普通话.
Mou某
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This is a challenge question since you didn't give a standard to measure what kind of people should be considered as a MSM speaker. If you care only people who **can say**, then, I think most of Chinese, including those minority ethics people fit for the standard. Although many of them may have very strong accent. But still, we can't give a number, because no one knows how many this kind of people out there. As I suggestion, I would recommend, again, based on the statistics of educated people, that would be a trustable way.
thinwa
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@user2550062 I want to know native speakers only. What I mean is, peoples whose first language in MSM.
Mou某
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I can't give the number, but I may guess that this number may be less than 50 or 100 million, since even the 10s and 20s in the vast rural area speak dialects in their early life.
Winfred Huang
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I think very few. I grew up in Beijing and witnessed how my parent and my friends' parents who are able to speak MSM with none to very little accent, at home speak Mandarin with their hometown accent added deliberately to "feel at home". True accent-free MSM sounds too formal to use in daily life. With people from different places settling in big cities like Beijing and Shanghai, I would imaging increasing number of families  using true MSM as their primary dialect and there are more "native MSM speakers" now than ever, but that's still a very small slice of the Chinese population.
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What is the percentage of the population whose actual mother tongue is Mandarin?
# What is the percentage of the population whose actual mother tongue is Mandarin?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2015-11-18)

It is, falsely, assumed that Mandarin is the mother tongue of all Chinese speakers (here we can understand Mandarin as 普通话/国语/华语).

The mother tongue would be the language that someone learned at home from their family members.

I would imagine the mother tongue for most Chinese speakers would be some form of dialect/topolect.

There seems to only be stats for "speaker" amounts and not strictly native speakers.

What is the percentage of the population whose actual mother tongue is Mandarin?

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Possibly can be roughly calculated using the data on [this map](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_varieties_of_Chinese#/media/File:Map_of_sinitic_languages_full-en.svg).  
> **username_0**: The map is a bit misleading the mandarin sector includes many mutually unintelligible languages/dialects/topolects/what-have-you. 河北方言 would be useless in 云南 and vice-versa.  
> **username_2**: I assume you are asking for percentage of who can speak *standard* Mandarin, I think only Beijing people and some of the Hebei people have the tongue *sounds like* standard Mandarin. Besides that, educated young generations, especially who live in big cities can speak standard Mandarin. I can't give the number, but you can try to find out population data of tier 1 and tier 2 cities of China, and then you can get the information.  
> **username_3**: @user3306356 no, that map is accurate. You are assuming that all varieties of Mandarin are mutually intelligible, which is false. In Mandarin's case, it may very well be a [dialect chain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialect_continuum), i.e. neighbouring dialects are understandable but the North/South extremes are not. In any case intelligibility is but one factor determining whether something is a language or dialect.  
> **username_0**: My question is: how many native speakers are there of Modern Standard Mandarin (MSM)? I don't care about varieties, only 普通话.  
> **username_2**: This is a challenge question since you didn't give a standard to measure what kind of people should be considered as a MSM speaker. If you care only people who **can say**, then, I think most of Chinese, including those minority ethics people fit for the standard. Although many of them may have very strong accent. But still, we can't give a number, because no one knows how many this kind of people out there. As I suggestion, I would recommend, again, based on the statistics of educated people, that would be a trustable way.  
> **username_0**: @user2550062 I want to know native speakers only. What I mean is, peoples whose first language in MSM.  
> **username_4**: I can't give the number, but I may guess that this number may be less than 50 or 100 million, since even the 10s and 20s in the vast rural area speak dialects in their early life.  
> **username_5**: I think very few. I grew up in Beijing and witnessed how my parent and my friends' parents who are able to speak MSM with none to very little accent, at home speak Mandarin with their hometown accent added deliberately to "feel at home". True accent-free MSM sounds too formal to use in daily life. With people from different places settling in big cities like Beijing and Shanghai, I would imaging increasing number of families  using true MSM as their primary dialect and there are more "native MSM speakers" now than ever, but that's still a very small slice of the Chinese population.  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_9 on 2015-11-23. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

> The mother tongue would be the language that someone learned at home from their family members
>
> There seems to only be stats for "speaker" amounts and not strictly native speakers.

Firstly, 'mother tongue' and 'native' are not the same.

My mother tongue is officially Mandarin Chinese, and I used to speak it a lot at home, but my native language is English, which is my strongest language. Well, depending on perspective, people like me might be considered as having two native languages.

If that is so, then everyone whose mother tongue is Mandarin Chinese must be a native speaker, which makes it a subset.

As people whose mother tongue is Mandarin Chinese ([836 million](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_varieties_of_Chinese#/media/File:Map_of_sinitic_languages_full-en.svg)) is a subset of people whose native language is Mandarin Chinese, ([960 million](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_Chinese)) I think that it is safe to assume that the map provided by @Stan is an accurate depiction of the population whose actual mother tongue is Mandarin Chinese.

Given those numbers, the percentage would be 87%. However, we do know that while some people's official mother tongue is Mandarin Chinese, they may not pursue it, which makes this statistic inaccurate. So there might be around a 10% margin of error if we were to assume that only Chinese people in China pursue their mother tongue as native language.

> **Comments:**
> **username_7**: Can you define how "mother tongue" and "native tongue" are not the same? You seem to be using a different definition from anything I've read before.  

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### Answer by username_6 on 2015-12-12. Score: 0

At Copenhagen University we are taught that roughly 75% af the Chinese population speak mandarin. 19% speak cantonese, and the left over 6% is divided besween the rest of the 54 minorities in China. China has 55 minorities.

All children attending school in China have mandarin lectures.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I asked for native speakers, though, i.e.: speakers from birth not “learned in school”.  
> **username_7**: Speakers of Cantonese do not constitute an ethnic minority of China. They're Hans.  
> **username_8**: I would like to add to what @vermillon said: ethnic minorities are not directly related to dialects. There are Han people (the majority of people in China) who speak dialects as their mother tongue, people from ethnic minorities who speak Mandarin as their mother tongue, and people from ethnic minorities who speak dialects or even completely different languages as their mother tongue.  

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