<p>Modern translation of colloquial saying considered to be 意义 here, which in english is meaning, sense, ignificance, importance, bearing or something else.
But ancient words are very abstract, abbreviated, modern meanings can't mean the meaning itself. </p>

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2014-09-25T08:47:36.123Z
Thanks @user6365. Significance is very likely. Then what's the difference between 意 and 意之所随?
George Chen
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2014-09-25T09:02:52.150Z
意之所随者,不可以言传也 means: You won't understand what I mean only by my words. or What this means if hard to explain by speak.
There is another explaination for this words: 只可意会，不可言传，whick is : Which can't be teached can only be tasted. Only to be sensed, not explained. It's perceivable but indescribable. Just like that.
user6365
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2014-09-25T09:16:09.523Z
There is realy pain of explain 意 and 意之所随, for just the explaination itself is in the condition of it's meaning. And, if you understand what is only to be sensed, not explained, you know how my feeling is about these ancient words.
user6365
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2014-09-25T09:27:52.677Z
I think this may be a better translation: The valueable things in a book is the words, but the valueable things in these words is the meaning inside, the meaning has it's keypoints, and these keypoints are hard to be explained only by what's written. But people only pay attention to the words and written them into book.
user6365
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2014-09-25T17:35:49.220Z
Thanks, @user6365. If you feel the pain, you have some good company. https://archive.org/stream/BertrandRussell-AnInquaryIntoMeaningAndTruth/AnInquiryIntoMeaningAndTruth#page/n3/mode/2up
George Chen
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2014-09-26T07:06:17.600Z
essence may be better than keypoint
user6365
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2014-09-26T19:20:35.060Z
Truth be told, I've been meditating on this one for more than 3 years. As of today, I believe there is money in it.
George Chen
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2014-09-25T05:40:44.647Z
2014-09-25T05:40:44.647Z
user6365
<p>As a programmer it makes me think of a joke: "to understand recursion, you have to understand recursion first".</p>

<p>To know the 意 of 意, maybe it is inappropriate to ask this question in the first place.</p>

<p>The closest synonym I could think of it's: <code>spirit</code>. which represent fundamental, basic or even simple truth underneath the hood.  </p>

<p>"That's the spirit" people often say. And this word also means alcoholic beverage. Why exactly? I do not know but I do know if someone is asking this question he is not getting it, it he? :) </p>

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2014-09-25T18:37:43.003Z
Good point. Time to reconsider it under the influence of some spirit.
George Chen
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noru
<p>To best understand the meaning of a word, it's best to first understand the context in which it is used.</p>

<p>意 can generally mean idea, concept, meaning, thought, to think, wish, intention, will, to expect, to anticipate, etc. which is quite a lot!</p>

<p>Also, 意 is not usually used singly. It is most often used together with another word, which probably helps add depth to the actual meaning. For example: </p>

<p>心意，情意，如意，天意，醉意，满意；</p>

<p>意义，意气，意念，意思，意味，意料。</p>

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<p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/o0UhZ.jpg" alt="Zhang"></p>

<p>Being a 武侠迷, I can best relate "意" to the classic novel《倚天屠龙记》. </p>

<p>In a particular scene, a 100 year old martial arts expert 张三丰 was imparting his newly conceived, and interestingly slow-motioned swordplay 太极剑 to his grand disciple, 张无忌. </p>

<p>And the words below were exactly how "意" was used to illustrate the essence of 太极剑:  </p>

<p>张三丰传给他的乃是“剑意”，而非“剑招”，要他将所见到的剑招忘得半点不剩，才能得其神髓，临敌时以意驭剑，千变万化，无穷无尽! </p>

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I like your answer until the picture starts. The last sentence is exactly the kind of language I try to avoid.
George Chen
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deepwhite
<p>If I'm not mistaken, this 300 BC Chinese philosophy is strikingly modern.</p>

<p>世之所贵道者，书也。书不过语，语有贵也。语之所贵者，意也，意有所随。意之所随者，不可以言传也，而世因贵言传书。Source: 轮扁斫轮 <a href="http://baike.baidu.com/view/238082.htm" rel="nofollow">http://baike.baidu.com/view/238082.htm</a></p>

<p>For example, until one sees the colour red, he will never know what the colour red is. No verbal explanation can take the place of a demonstration.</p>

<p>In another example, no one can learn how to swim by just reading a book.</p>

<p>I wonder what exactly 意 means.</p>

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What exactly does 意 mean?
# What exactly does 意 mean?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2014-09-25)

If I'm not mistaken, this 300 BC Chinese philosophy is strikingly modern.

世之所贵道者，书也。书不过语，语有贵也。语之所贵者，意也，意有所随。意之所随者，不可以言传也，而世因贵言传书。Source: 轮扁斫轮 <http://baike.baidu.com/view/238082.htm>

For example, until one sees the colour red, he will never know what the colour red is. No verbal explanation can take the place of a demonstration.

In another example, no one can learn how to swim by just reading a book.

I wonder what exactly 意 means.

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2014-09-25. Score: 4

Modern translation of colloquial saying considered to be 意义 here, which in english is meaning, sense, ignificance, importance, bearing or something else.
But ancient words are very abstract, abbreviated, modern meanings can't mean the meaning itself.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Thanks @user6365. Significance is very likely. Then what's the difference between 意 and 意之所随?  
> **username_1**: 意之所随者,不可以言传也 means: You won't understand what I mean only by my words. or What this means if hard to explain by speak. There is another explaination for this words: 只可意会，不可言传，whick is : Which can't be teached can only be tasted. Only to be sensed, not explained. It's perceivable but indescribable. Just like that.  
> **username_1**: There is realy pain of explain 意 and 意之所随, for just the explaination itself is in the condition of it's meaning. And, if you understand what is only to be sensed, not explained, you know how my feeling is about these ancient words.  
> **username_1**: I think this may be a better translation: The valueable things in a book is the words, but the valueable things in these words is the meaning inside, the meaning has it's keypoints, and these keypoints are hard to be explained only by what's written. But people only pay attention to the words and written them into book.  
> **username_0**: Thanks, @user6365. If you feel the pain, you have some good company. https://archive.org/stream/BertrandRussell-AnInquaryIntoMeaningAndTruth/AnInquiryIntoMeaningAndTruth#page/n3/mode/2up  
> **username_1**: essence may be better than keypoint  
> **username_0**: Truth be told, I've been meditating on this one for more than 3 years. As of today, I believe there is money in it.  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2014-09-25. Score: 2

As a programmer it makes me think of a joke: "to understand recursion, you have to understand recursion first".

To know the 意 of 意, maybe it is inappropriate to ask this question in the first place.

The closest synonym I could think of it's: `spirit`. which represent fundamental, basic or even simple truth underneath the hood.

"That's the spirit" people often say. And this word also means alcoholic beverage. Why exactly? I do not know but I do know if someone is asking this question he is not getting it, it he? :)

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Good point. Time to reconsider it under the influence of some spirit.  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2015-07-07. Score: 1

To best understand the meaning of a word, it's best to first understand the context in which it is used.

意 can generally mean idea, concept, meaning, thought, to think, wish, intention, will, to expect, to anticipate, etc. which is quite a lot!

Also, 意 is not usually used singly. It is most often used together with another word, which probably helps add depth to the actual meaning. For example:

心意，情意，如意，天意，醉意，满意；

意义，意气，意念，意思，意味，意料。

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![Zhang](https://i.sstatic.net/o0UhZ.jpg)

Being a 武侠迷, I can best relate "意" to the classic novel《倚天屠龙记》.

In a particular scene, a 100 year old martial arts expert 张三丰 was imparting his newly conceived, and interestingly slow-motioned swordplay 太极剑 to his grand disciple, 张无忌.

And the words below were exactly how "意" was used to illustrate the essence of 太极剑:

张三丰传给他的乃是“剑意”，而非“剑招”，要他将所见到的剑招忘得半点不剩，才能得其神髓，临敌时以意驭剑，千变万化，无穷无尽!

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I like your answer until the picture starts. The last sentence is exactly the kind of language I try to avoid.  

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