<p>Just add to dan's answer, the dictionary actually explains that to you.</p>
<blockquote>
<p><strong>逻辑学指...</strong><br />
逻辑学 - logic<br />
指 - refer to</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Together, definition 1 means <code>In logic, the word refers to...</code>. Although it is clearer to say:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>(论证) 在逻辑学中指...</p>
</blockquote>
<p>And you are indeed right on the translation of definition 1. It is an logic terminology means &quot;argument&quot;.</p>

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<p><a href="https://m.zaojv.com/2566704.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">From this website</a></p>
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<p>他的 <strong>论证</strong> 严密,无可辩驳。</p>
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<p>我们写文章要围绕中心论点展开 <strong>论证</strong> 。</p>
</blockquote>
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<p>按照这种 <strong>论证</strong> 的方法,充类至尽,问题也许就可以解决了。</p>
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<p>It's the definition in 逻辑学. Usually, you don't have to care about it. Here is the <a href="https://mip.book118.com/html/2019/0628/5042144214002101.shtm" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Baidu reference</a>.</p>
<p>Normally, we just focus on definition 2 &amp; 3.</p>

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<p>Since I'm encountering issues originating from using (insufficiently precise and often incomplete) Chinese-English and English-Chinese dictionaries, I'm trying to make the switch to Chinese-Chinese dictionaries.  In one such dictionary, we find the definition of 论证:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?wdqb=%E8%AE%BA%E8%AF%81" rel="nofollow noreferrer">论证</a> (lùn​zhèng​)</p>
<ol>
<li>名：逻辑学指引用论据来证明论题的真实性的论述过程，是由论据推出论题时所使用的推理形式。</li>
<li>动：论述并证明：～会。</li>
<li>名：立论的根据。</li>
</ol>
<p><sup>现代汉语词典 (<a href="https://i.sstatic.net/SYwOUm.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">original</a>)</sup></p>
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<p>I think I understand 2 and 3 clearly enough: 你<strong>论证</strong>了你的观点 (def. 2; verb), and 你的<strong>论证</strong>很有道理 (def. 3; noun).  The first definition above is a bit more complicated, however.  I feel it means something like the English &quot;argumentation&quot;, as an abstract, academic concept.</p>
<p>I feel that perhaps this example sentence from YouDao captures the first definition (although I'm not sure if it's a good example):</p>
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<p>根据市场和生产厂家的情况，通过<strong>论证</strong>与分析，阐述了配制米的定义和品种种类。</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Here I interpret the middle part as &quot;..., by means of argumentation and analysis, ...&quot;.  That's the best I've found at this point.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>: What are some example sentences for 现代汉语词典's first definition of 论证?</p>

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if you’re using chinese - chinese dictionary, the 國語辭典 is the authentic, authoritative one you need: http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cbdic/search.htm 
水巷孑蠻
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Although similar, I think 辯證 is "proof through (the knowledge-based) argument/debate" - 辯論證實, and 論證 is "proof through theory (and logic)" - 理論證實.
r13
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Thumb up for the use of Chinese-Chinese dictionaries.
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What are some example sentences for 现代汉语词典's first definition of 论证, which means something like "argumentation"?
# What are some example sentences for 现代汉语词典's first definition of 论证, which means something like "argumentation"?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-08-05)

Since I'm encountering issues originating from using (insufficiently precise and often incomplete) Chinese-English and English-Chinese dictionaries, I'm trying to make the switch to Chinese-Chinese dictionaries. In one such dictionary, we find the definition of 论证:

> [论证](https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?wdqb=%E8%AE%BA%E8%AF%81) (lùn​zhèng​)
>
> 1. 名：逻辑学指引用论据来证明论题的真实性的论述过程，是由论据推出论题时所使用的推理形式。
> 2. 动：论述并证明：～会。
> 3. 名：立论的根据。
>
> 现代汉语词典 ([original](https://i.sstatic.net/SYwOUm.jpg))

I think I understand 2 and 3 clearly enough: 你**论证**了你的观点 (def. 2; verb), and 你的**论证**很有道理 (def. 3; noun). The first definition above is a bit more complicated, however. I feel it means something like the English "argumentation", as an abstract, academic concept.

I feel that perhaps this example sentence from YouDao captures the first definition (although I'm not sure if it's a good example):

> 根据市场和生产厂家的情况，通过**论证**与分析，阐述了配制米的定义和品种种类。

Here I interpret the middle part as "..., by means of argumentation and analysis, ...". That's the best I've found at this point.

**Question**: What are some example sentences for 现代汉语词典's first definition of 论证?

**Tags:** meaning, word
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: if you’re using chinese - chinese dictionary, the 國語辭典 is the authentic, authoritative one you need: http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cbdic/search.htm   
> **username_2**: Although similar, I think 辯證 is "proof through (the knowledge-based) argument/debate" - 辯論證實, and 論證 is "proof through theory (and logic)" - 理論證實.  
> **username_3**: Thumb up for the use of Chinese-Chinese dictionaries.  

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_4 on 2021-08-07. Score: 1

Just add to dan's answer, the dictionary actually explains that to you.

> **逻辑学指...**  
> 逻辑学 - logic  
> 指 - refer to

Together, definition 1 means `In logic, the word refers to...`. Although it is clearer to say:

> (论证) 在逻辑学中指...

And you are indeed right on the translation of definition 1. It is an logic terminology means "argument".


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### Answer by username_5 on 2021-08-06. Score: 0

[From this website](https://m.zaojv.com/2566704.html)

> 他的 **论证** 严密,无可辩驳。

> 我们写文章要围绕中心论点展开 **论证** 。

> 按照这种 **论证** 的方法,充类至尽,问题也许就可以解决了。


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### Answer by username_6 on 2021-08-06. Score: 0

It's the definition in 逻辑学. Usually, you don't have to care about it. Here is the [Baidu reference](https://mip.book118.com/html/2019/0628/5042144214002101.shtm).

Normally, we just focus on definition 2 & 3.


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