<p>It does not exist any more in Chengdu dialect (my mother's tongue), but I think if you regard Chongqing dialect as a part of Sichuanese, there must be somewhere.</p>

<p>The only usage of 'ha' in Chengdu dialect is in 蛤蟆 but it is ha2, and it does not seem to be a native word in Sichuanese but imported from Standard Chinese. We traditionally use 赖克宝 instead.</p>

<p>The dialects in some place in Chongqing sometimes pronounce 解决 as gai3 jio2. And I believe that this is because they mostly keep the original dialect inherited from Hubei/Hunan dialect. So 虾 must be pronounced as ha1 there.</p>

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Your point about “toad” could be correct, as it is sometimes written 虾蟆.
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<p>《现代汉语方言音库 • 成都话音档》has two listings for 虾 one that says:</p>

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  <p>xa⁵⁵ 又ɕia⁵⁵</p>
</blockquote>

<p><code>xa⁵⁵</code> can pretty much be pinyinized as <code>ha1</code> - for simplification here.</p>

<p>And there is of course a second entry that says:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>ɕia⁵⁵ 又xa⁵⁵</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Now of course it looks like I've answered my own question - seeing as the name of the book is <strong>成都话</strong>音档. But, <code>ha1</code> is not a pronunciation I've heard before for 虾 in Sichuanese and most people don't believe that it even exists. I'm curious as to where this pronunciation is still maintained in Sichuan.</p>

<p>It's certainly part of the vestiges of 湖广填川.</p>

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Is this an influence of e.g.「下」having two pronunciations (**ha4** / **xia4**)? Or maybe it's the way「蝦」in「蝦蟆」is pronounced?
dROOOze
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More likely to be from Cantonese, I think.
Mou某
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在我所在的湖南方言区，虾、下都发ha，夏、瑕之类发xia
Toosky Hierot
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湘语 is a possibility too.
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A typo here: did you mean "湖广滇川"? /// This pronunciation also exists in other places. I myself would say “等下子” [wait a minute] as in "den ha zi" [tone omitted since I do not know how to indicate them occurred in dialects] in dialect, where in Putonghua “下” is actually "xià". Also other people would say hāzi to indicate 虾子 in my hometown [I myself do not use that]. I think this pronunciation would be frequently encountered in the district of dialect that lie in the south of the Changjiang River. Maybe they have similar origins.
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@xbh No typo. Sichuanese has a lot of influence from Cantonese, Hakka & Xiang, thanks to 湖广填川. Where is your hometown that 虾子 is pronounced hāzi?
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@user3306356 Sorry that i commented something stupid like that without any search in advance. I was talking about Anhui, but I cannot guarantee that phenomenon appears in the whole province, since the dialect seems vary a lot here.
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Where in Sichuan is 虾 pronunced ha1 (xa⁵⁵)?
# Where in Sichuan is 虾 pronunced ha1 (xa⁵⁵)?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-10-06)

《现代汉语方言音库 • 成都话音档》has two listings for 虾 one that says:

> xa⁵⁵ 又ɕia⁵⁵

`xa⁵⁵` can pretty much be pinyinized as `ha1` - for simplification here.

And there is of course a second entry that says:

> ɕia⁵⁵ 又xa⁵⁵

Now of course it looks like I've answered my own question - seeing as the name of the book is **成都话**音档. But, `ha1` is not a pronunciation I've heard before for 虾 in Sichuanese and most people don't believe that it even exists. I'm curious as to where this pronunciation is still maintained in Sichuan.

It's certainly part of the vestiges of 湖广填川.

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Is this an influence of e.g.「下」having two pronunciations (**ha4** / **xia4**)? Or maybe it's the way「蝦」in「蝦蟆」is pronounced?  
> **username_0**: More likely to be from Cantonese, I think.  
> **username_2**: 在我所在的湖南方言区，虾、下都发ha，夏、瑕之类发xia  
> **username_0**: 湘语 is a possibility too.  
> **username_3**: A typo here: did you mean "湖广滇川"? /// This pronunciation also exists in other places. I myself would say “等下子” [wait a minute] as in "den ha zi" [tone omitted since I do not know how to indicate them occurred in dialects] in dialect, where in Putonghua “下” is actually "xià". Also other people would say hāzi to indicate 虾子 in my hometown [I myself do not use that]. I think this pronunciation would be frequently encountered in the district of dialect that lie in the south of the Changjiang River. Maybe they have similar origins.  
> **username_0**: @xbh No typo. Sichuanese has a lot of influence from Cantonese, Hakka & Xiang, thanks to 湖广填川. Where is your hometown that 虾子 is pronounced hāzi?  
> **username_3**: @user3306356 Sorry that i commented something stupid like that without any search in advance. I was talking about Anhui, but I cannot guarantee that phenomenon appears in the whole province, since the dialect seems vary a lot here.  

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### Answer by username_4 on 2020-05-07. Score: 1

It does not exist any more in Chengdu dialect (my mother's tongue), but I think if you regard Chongqing dialect as a part of Sichuanese, there must be somewhere.

The only usage of 'ha' in Chengdu dialect is in 蛤蟆 but it is ha2, and it does not seem to be a native word in Sichuanese but imported from Standard Chinese. We traditionally use 赖克宝 instead.

The dialects in some place in Chongqing sometimes pronounce 解决 as gai3 jio2. And I believe that this is because they mostly keep the original dialect inherited from Hubei/Hunan dialect. So 虾 must be pronounced as ha1 there.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Your point about “toad” could be correct, as it is sometimes written 虾蟆.  

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