<blockquote>
<p>&quot;如果我们，[<em>所有的学生</em>]，没有[<em>我们的中文</em>]老师，我们就[<em>永远</em>]不能站[<em>起来</em>]在听众前面说中文。&quot;</p>
<p>[ ] parts can be omitted.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Subject and object can often be omitted to make the speech flow smoother.</p>
<ul>
<li><p>The first 我们 already indicated 'all the students' therefore '所有的学生' is not needed.</p>
</li>
<li><p>No need to state it is 'our Chinese language teachers' (我们的中文老师) just '老师' is enough, we know whose teachers they are and what subject they teach from the context.</p>
</li>
<li><p><em>永远</em> is not needed, the phrase 'if there's no teachers, we can't...' already indicated 'never'</p>
</li>
<li><p>不能站[<em>起来</em>]在听众前面说中文。&quot;  = &quot;stand up and speak Chinese in front of the audience&quot; can be reduced to &quot;stand in front of the audience and speak Chinese&quot;</p>
</li>
<li><p>面前 is better than 前面 for 'in front of' when you mean 'facing' ; <em>'站在听众前面' could mean you are facing the same direction with the audience</em></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p>It would make your speech more native sounding:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>&quot;如果没有老师，我们就不能站在听众面前说中文(了)。&quot;</p>
<p>The first  '我们' can be omitted because the subject is clearly indicated in the following sentence. We don't need to repeat the subject in the same context.</p>
<p>(add final particle '了' to make the sentence sound complete)</p>
</blockquote>
<p><em>To construct a fluent sentence, you should look for anything that can be omitted, as long as the meaning remain unchanged.</em></p>

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Tang Ho
<blockquote>
  <p>如果没有老师，我们——所有学生——就绝不可能在听众面前说中文。</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I think that "all the students" must be translated and not omitted; here it is used for emphasis.  And "would never be able to " is 绝不可能。 </p>

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Holly zhang
<p>Actually we should consider re-arranging the structure of the sentence, and remove some redundant emphasizing expressions, to conform it naturally to Chinese speaking habit, a.e.</p>

<p>Change:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>If we, all the students, never had our teachers, we would never be
  able to stand and speak Chinese in front of an audience.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>To:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Had it not been our Chinese teachers, we all the students would never be able to stand and speak Chinese in front of an audience.</p>
</blockquote>

<p><strong>如果不是因为我们的中文老师，我们这些学生是不可能站在观众面前说中文的。</strong></p>

<p>Note the expression "<strong>would never be able to</strong>" is translated into "<strong>不可能</strong>" in favor of "永远不能" as the original sentence is to stress on the <strong>impossibility</strong> rather than the infinity of time. Also, "<strong>all the students</strong>" is translated into "<strong>这些</strong>学生" instead of "所有学生" to avoid it from racing against "不可能", which is the main stress of the sentence.</p>

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Bob Yang
<p>English:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>If we, all the students, never had our teachers, we would never be able to stand and speak Chinese in front of an audience.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>My variation in Chinese:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>如果我们，所有的学生，没有我们的中文老师，我们就永远不能站起来在听众前面说中文。</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I want to know if this sentence is correctly translated and makes sense in terms of Chinese grammar.</p>

<p>P.S. This is for a spoken performance in a competition. I would also like to know if I can actually say it like this.</p>

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如果，像我们这样所有的学生从来没有我们的老师，我们永远不可能站在听众前说汉语。
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<grammar><spoken><writing-critique>
Is 如果我们，所有的学生，没有我们的中文老师，我们就永远不能站起来在听众前面说中文 grammatical and does it makes sense?
# Is 如果我们，所有的学生，没有我们的中文老师，我们就永远不能站起来在听众前面说中文 grammatical and does it makes sense?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-02-25)

English:

> If we, all the students, never had our teachers, we would never be able to stand and speak Chinese in front of an audience.

My variation in Chinese:

> 如果我们，所有的学生，没有我们的中文老师，我们就永远不能站起来在听众前面说中文。

I want to know if this sentence is correctly translated and makes sense in terms of Chinese grammar.

P.S. This is for a spoken performance in a competition. I would also like to know if I can actually say it like this.

**Tags:** grammar, spoken, writing-critique
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: 如果，像我们这样所有的学生从来没有我们的老师，我们永远不可能站在听众前说汉语。  

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2018-02-25. Score: 2 | Accepted answer

> "如果我们，[*所有的学生*]，没有[*我们的中文*]老师，我们就[*永远*]不能站[*起来*]在听众前面说中文。"
>
> [ ] parts can be omitted.

Subject and object can often be omitted to make the speech flow smoother.

* The first 我们 already indicated 'all the students' therefore '所有的学生' is not needed.
* No need to state it is 'our Chinese language teachers' (我们的中文老师) just '老师' is enough, we know whose teachers they are and what subject they teach from the context.
* *永远* is not needed, the phrase 'if there's no teachers, we can't...' already indicated 'never'
* 不能站[*起来*]在听众前面说中文。" = "stand up and speak Chinese in front of the audience" can be reduced to "stand in front of the audience and speak Chinese"
* 面前 is better than 前面 for 'in front of' when you mean 'facing' ; *'站在听众前面' could mean you are facing the same direction with the audience*

It would make your speech more native sounding:

> "如果没有老师，我们就不能站在听众面前说中文(了)。"
>
> The first '我们' can be omitted because the subject is clearly indicated in the following sentence. We don't need to repeat the subject in the same context.
>
> (add final particle '了' to make the sentence sound complete)

*To construct a fluent sentence, you should look for anything that can be omitted, as long as the meaning remain unchanged.*


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### Answer by username_3 on 2019-12-26. Score: 3

> 如果没有老师，我们——所有学生——就绝不可能在听众面前说中文。

I think that "all the students" must be translated and not omitted; here it is used for emphasis. And "would never be able to " is 绝不可能。


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### Answer by username_4 on 2018-02-26. Score: 2

Actually we should consider re-arranging the structure of the sentence, and remove some redundant emphasizing expressions, to conform it naturally to Chinese speaking habit, a.e.

Change:

> If we, all the students, never had our teachers, we would never be
> able to stand and speak Chinese in front of an audience.

To:

> Had it not been our Chinese teachers, we all the students would never be able to stand and speak Chinese in front of an audience.

**如果不是因为我们的中文老师，我们这些学生是不可能站在观众面前说中文的。**

Note the expression "**would never be able to**" is translated into "**不可能**" in favor of "永远不能" as the original sentence is to stress on the **impossibility** rather than the infinity of time. Also, "**all the students**" is translated into "**这些**学生" instead of "所有学生" to avoid it from racing against "不可能", which is the main stress of the sentence.


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