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<p><em>Can it be used to link anything together, or is it only used in fixed
expressions?</em></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Using [連 verb A 带 verb B] create mostly idiomatic phrases when the verbs are related e.g. 消打, 哄骗, 滚爬</p>
<p>连消带打, 连哄带骗 and 连滚带爬 are considered fixed expressions because they are commonly spoken in day-to-day speech.</p>
<p>But A and B in [连 noun A 带 noun B] can be anything related or not</p>
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<p><em>In fixed expressions A and B are both verbs. Does it only work for verbs?</em></p>
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<p>It can be nouns, e.g. 连人带马一起翻落山坡; 连店带货一起顶让给别人</p>
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<p>I've found what appear to be examples of 连A带B带C to connect 3 things together. Does it work for as many things as you want?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The common structure is (连)A(带)B(与及/外加/再加上)C. e.g. 连人带马与及军旗一起翻落山坡; 连店带货再加上招牌一起顶让给别人; 連哄帶騙外加小許威迫</p>
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<p>Does it add any emphasis or other flavor to A+B? Simultaneity? Intensity?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>连A带B indicates 'also' or 'both'.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>verb A and verb B happen at the same time or alternately.</p>
</li>
<li><p>noun A and noun B are both the objects</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p>Emphasis is on 'about equal in importance'</p>

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Agree, just one more thing. "C" is not common because 4-character words are preferred in Chinese.
River
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<p>The Pleco dictionary mentions the construction 连A带B meaning &quot;both A and B&quot; in the definition of 连, but I can't find any other discussion of this structure.</p>
<p>I see it in fixed expressions like 连滚带爬 (lit &quot;both rolling and crawling&quot;, but figuratively &quot;frantically trying to escape&quot;) and 连踢带打 (lit &quot;to kick and hit&quot;).</p>
<ul>
<li>Can it be used to link anything together, or is it only used in fixed expressions?</li>
<li>In fixed expressions A and B are both verbs. Does it only work for verbs?</li>
<li>I've found what appear to be examples of 连A带B带C to connect 3 things together. Does it work for as many things as you want?</li>
<li>Does it add any emphasis or other flavor to A+B? Simultaneity? Intensity?</li>
</ul>

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螃蟹夹豌豆——连滚带爬, haha
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Is the construction 连A带B meaning "both A and B" a general construction or limited to fixed expressions?
# Is the construction 连A带B meaning "both A and B" a general construction or limited to fixed expressions?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-01-16)

The Pleco dictionary mentions the construction 连A带B meaning "both A and B" in the definition of 连, but I can't find any other discussion of this structure.

I see it in fixed expressions like 连滚带爬 (lit "both rolling and crawling", but figuratively "frantically trying to escape") and 连踢带打 (lit "to kick and hit").

* Can it be used to link anything together, or is it only used in fixed expressions?
* In fixed expressions A and B are both verbs. Does it only work for verbs?
* I've found what appear to be examples of 连A带B带C to connect 3 things together. Does it work for as many things as you want?
* Does it add any emphasis or other flavor to A+B? Simultaneity? Intensity?

**Tags:** grammar, expressions
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: 螃蟹夹豌豆——连滚带爬, haha  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2021-01-17. Score: 4 | Accepted answer

> *Can it be used to link anything together, or is it only used in fixed
> expressions?*

Using [連 verb A 带 verb B] create mostly idiomatic phrases when the verbs are related e.g. 消打, 哄骗, 滚爬

连消带打, 连哄带骗 and 连滚带爬 are considered fixed expressions because they are commonly spoken in day-to-day speech.

But A and B in [连 noun A 带 noun B] can be anything related or not

> *In fixed expressions A and B are both verbs. Does it only work for verbs?*

It can be nouns, e.g. 连人带马一起翻落山坡; 连店带货一起顶让给别人

> I've found what appear to be examples of 连A带B带C to connect 3 things together. Does it work for as many things as you want?

The common structure is (连)A(带)B(与及/外加/再加上)C. e.g. 连人带马与及军旗一起翻落山坡; 连店带货再加上招牌一起顶让给别人; 連哄帶騙外加小許威迫

> Does it add any emphasis or other flavor to A+B? Simultaneity? Intensity?

连A带B indicates 'also' or 'both'.

1. verb A and verb B happen at the same time or alternately.
2. noun A and noun B are both the objects

Emphasis is on 'about equal in importance'

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: Agree, just one more thing. "C" is not common because 4-character words are preferred in Chinese.  

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