<p>No difference in meaning but the grammatical style differs.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>这道菜味道很好 - This dish tastes very good.</p>
</li>
<li><p>这道菜的味道很好 - This dish's taste is very good, or, the taste of this dish is very good.</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p>In the first sentence, &quot;this dish&quot; can be replaced by &quot;it&quot;; and for the second, &quot;this dish&quot; is to be replaced by &quot;its&quot; - Object + 的 = Possessive</p>

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2022-06-22T18:14:28.680Z
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r13
<blockquote>
<p>1.这道菜味道很好 and</p>
<p>2.这道菜的味道很好</p>
</blockquote>
<p>If we analyze these sentences syntactically, we can conclude the following:</p>
<p>In sentence 1, 这道菜 is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic-prominent_language" rel="noreferrer">the topic</a> of the sentence, and the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic-prominent_language" rel="noreferrer">comment</a> is 味道很好.  You should have a slight pause after 这道菜 to help mark it off as the topic from the following noun phrase.</p>
<p>In sentence 2, 这道菜的味道 is the topic.  The word 味道 is the syntactic head/noun of the topic and 这道菜 is just a modifier.  The comment is 很好.  There is no need to pause either after 这道菜 or 味道 since no noun follows either expression.</p>
<p>Although the two sentences mean more or less the same thing in isolation, they might not be 100% interchangeable in context.  The first one sets up the dish as the topic of the conversation and facilitates further comments about the dish, such as its appearance.  The second one sets up the taste as the topic of conversation and would better facilitate follow-up comments about other aspects of the taste.</p>
<p>Since the relationship between topics and comments is loose, I also think that the style of the first sentence is more conversational and the style of the second sounds more precise and better for occasions where precise style is valued.</p>

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2022-06-22T21:09:12.730Z
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Vegawatcher
<p>It's like difference between &quot;this dish's taste is very good&quot; and &quot;the taste of this dish is very good&quot;. Either way is fine but 1 is more orally used.</p>

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2022-06-22T17:33:02.463Z
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Jilin
<p>As a native speaker of Chinese. 99% of Chinese people would think these two expression have no difference between each other.
Both of them mean the dish is yummy.
You can use both of the to describe your fantastic meal.
I guess the tricky thing here is that '菜' , which means meal, as a noun is used to describe another noun -- '味道‘ , which means taste, in the second sentence.</p>

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2022-06-23T03:25:10.833Z
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user32064
<p>The meaning of these two sentences is the same, but in Chinese expressions, sometimes the &quot;的&quot; is omitted (provided that the omission of &quot;的&quot; does not affect the expression of the meaning)</p>

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2022-06-30T02:18:33.360Z
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Ceasar
<p>These two sentences are exactly the same, except that the first one omits the character &quot;的&quot;.<br />
In fact, we usually omit one or more &quot;的&quot;.</p>
<p>Another example:<br />
北京王府井全聚德烤鸭又贵又难吃 = 北京的王府井的全聚德的烤鸭又贵又难吃</p>

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2022-06-24T07:51:55.520Z
2022-06-24T07:51:55.520Z
Shengchen Xu
<p>What is the difference between</p>
<ol>
<li>这道菜味道很好
and</li>
<li>这道菜<strong>的</strong>味道很好?</li>
</ol>
<p>How does this grammar point work?</p>

<difference><particles>
Difference using 的 here 1) 这道菜味道很好 and 2) 这道菜的味道很好
# Difference using 的 here 1) 这道菜味道很好 and 2) 这道菜的味道很好

(Asked by: username_0 on 2022-06-22)

What is the difference between

1. 这道菜味道很好
   and
2. 这道菜**的**味道很好?

How does this grammar point work?

**Tags:** difference, particles

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## 6 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2022-06-22. Score: 4 | Accepted answer

No difference in meaning but the grammatical style differs.

1. 这道菜味道很好 - This dish tastes very good.
2. 这道菜的味道很好 - This dish's taste is very good, or, the taste of this dish is very good.

In the first sentence, "this dish" can be replaced by "it"; and for the second, "this dish" is to be replaced by "its" - Object + 的 = Possessive


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### Answer by username_2 on 2022-06-22. Score: 9

> 1.这道菜味道很好 and
>
> 2.这道菜的味道很好

If we analyze these sentences syntactically, we can conclude the following:

In sentence 1, 这道菜 is [the topic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic-prominent_language) of the sentence, and the [comment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic-prominent_language) is 味道很好. You should have a slight pause after 这道菜 to help mark it off as the topic from the following noun phrase.

In sentence 2, 这道菜的味道 is the topic. The word 味道 is the syntactic head/noun of the topic and 这道菜 is just a modifier. The comment is 很好. There is no need to pause either after 这道菜 or 味道 since no noun follows either expression.

Although the two sentences mean more or less the same thing in isolation, they might not be 100% interchangeable in context. The first one sets up the dish as the topic of the conversation and facilitates further comments about the dish, such as its appearance. The second one sets up the taste as the topic of conversation and would better facilitate follow-up comments about other aspects of the taste.

Since the relationship between topics and comments is loose, I also think that the style of the first sentence is more conversational and the style of the second sounds more precise and better for occasions where precise style is valued.


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### Answer by username_3 on 2022-06-22. Score: 4

It's like difference between "this dish's taste is very good" and "the taste of this dish is very good". Either way is fine but 1 is more orally used.


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### Answer by username_4 on 2022-06-23. Score: 2

As a native speaker of Chinese. 99% of Chinese people would think these two expression have no difference between each other.
Both of them mean the dish is yummy.
You can use both of the to describe your fantastic meal.
I guess the tricky thing here is that '菜' , which means meal, as a noun is used to describe another noun -- '味道‘ , which means taste, in the second sentence.


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### Answer by username_5 on 2022-06-30. Score: 1

The meaning of these two sentences is the same, but in Chinese expressions, sometimes the "的" is omitted (provided that the omission of "的" does not affect the expression of the meaning)


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### Answer by username_6 on 2022-06-24. Score: 1

These two sentences are exactly the same, except that the first one omits the character "的".  
In fact, we usually omit one or more "的".

Another example:  
北京王府井全聚德烤鸭又贵又难吃 = 北京的王府井的全聚德的烤鸭又贵又难吃


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