<p>It seems to me that using 的/de/ instead of 地/de/ as an adverb marker is acceptable to most people.</p>
<p>Look at the following two phrases</p>
<p>重重地打擊 /chóngchóng de dǎjí/ : heavily(adv) hit(v)</p>
<p>重重的打擊 /chóngchóng de dǎjí/ : heavy(adj) hit(n)</p>
<p>The functions of 地 and 的 are clearly different, however, we often see sentences like this: 重重的打擊他 (hit him heavily). 的 here takes on the role of an adverb marker (same as 地)</p>
<p>重重的打擊他 = 重重地打擊他</p>
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<p>猴王穿得像个人一样的走了很长时间</p>
</blockquote>
<p>的 here modifies the verb 走 (describes the manner of the verb is carried out), therefore, it is acting as an adverb marker instead of an adjective marker</p>
<p>It is also correct to write: 猴王穿得像个人一样地走了很长时间</p>

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would it make sense to write: 猴王穿得像个人一样的（衣服）走了很长时间?
MBdr
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It should be 猴王穿得像个人（穿衣服）一样的走了很长时间
Tang Ho
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Would you mind shedding light on (semantically) how could the walking be different with different dressing, as the question I raised under a different answer?
ALife
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"He" in this case is a monkey disguised as a man, and the idea here is that now that he is wearing these clothes he can pass as a man and walk for a long time looking for watever he is looking for.
MBdr
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I witnessed the same roughly use of 的 where 地 should be used. I'm waiting for a revision of the dictionaries, but in the meantime it is still **not correct**. There is much confusion among natives on how to use (and pronounce) 地.
Joe at wearyourchinesename.com
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Tang Ho
<p>thanks for all the answers. This has been very helpful.</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong></p>
<p>Jeff Pepper is the Founder and CEO of imagin8press, the publisher of the book from where I got this passage. Here's his take on the matter:</p>
<p>&quot;Hi Marcus, thanks for pointing this out. I talked it over with my writing partner and translator Xiao Hui, and we agree that the use of 的 in this sentence is correct, although it might be confusing.</p>
<p>As used here, 的is part of the expression 一样的, meaning &quot;the same&quot;. As I'm sure you've seen, 的 is often put after an adjective, for example in the common expression 好的.  When we use 的 here, it pertains to the word before it, 一样, and not the words that follow it.</p>
<p>Xiao Hui suggests that we could have broken it up with a comma, like this:
猴王穿得像个人一样的, 走了很长时间。</p>
<p>Anyway, hope this makes sense. I see that you've started a Reddit discussion about this. feel free to pass our comments along if you like!</p>
<p>Best regards,&quot;</p>

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"猴王穿得像个人一样的"  isn't good. 的 is so out of place. 猴王穿得像个人一样 is better.
dan
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As for the usage of 一样的 vs 一样, we say: "团结得像一个人一样", not "团结得像一个人一样的". 一样的 is like adjective in English. e.g . 我们俩个是一样的。一样的天, and etc. So, the structure here 像......一样, not 像......一样的. e.g. 像我一样, not 像我一样的. Or we can say 像我一样的跑. But the OP's sentence 穿得像个人一样的走 doesn't make a practical sense though it's grammatical. That's why I said in my answer the problem is not about 的 and 地, but the way it describes the action "走". Otherwise, we have to seperate it as two independent clauses like 猴王穿得像个人一样, (猴王/他)走了很长时间。
dan
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MBdr
<p>I agree with ALife. It reads much better and more understandable if we use a comma to separate the sentence and get rid of 的: 猴王穿得像个人一样, 他走了很长时间</p>

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Xiao Hui Wang
<blockquote>
<p>猴王穿得像个人一样的走了很长时间。</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I shared the opinion with @Alife. The problem isn't about the usage of 的 or 地. The 穿得像个人一样(dressed like a man) isn't a way of walking, so it cannot be used to describe the walk itself. It's better to parallel the two phrases like:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>猴王穿得像个人一样走了很长时间。</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Or</p>
<blockquote>
<p>猴王穿得像个人一样, (它)走了很长时间。</p>
</blockquote>
<p>In real life, some might deliberately use this nonsensical description to make a joke. E.g. 他像骑马一样地吃饭。But in OP's sentence, it's not for joking purpose obviously.</p>

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dan
<p>Your confusion is reasonable. The correct ways would be</p>
<ul>
<li>猴王穿得像个人一样走了很长时间</li>
<li>猴王穿得像个人一样似的走了很长时间 (this <em>could</em> be seen as redundancy, but it's probably common colloquially)</li>
<li>穿得像个人一样的猴王走了很长时间</li>
</ul>

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ALife
<p>Your sentence is from the book &quot;The Rise of the Monkey King&quot; (《猴王的诞生》), which includes both the original</p>
<blockquote>
<p>&quot;The Monkey King walked a long way dressed like a man.&quot;</p>
</blockquote>
<p>and the translation</p>
<blockquote>
<p>&quot;猴王穿得像个人一样的走了很长时间。&quot;</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Anyway, from a purely grammatical standpoint, as auxiliary particle I would have used 地 (used after an adverbial phrase before verbs and adjectives, in this case the verb 走) instead of 的.</p>

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IMHO, both the original English text and the Chinese one (with my assumption of the writer's intention) wanted to use the phrase "dressed like a man" or "穿得像个人一样" to describe the Monkey King, as opposed to the way how he walks. Even though grammatically both ways are correct, semantically, I do not see how "dressed like xxx" could be a way of walking. Put it another way, how could the walking be different with different dressing? Or maybe there could be (depending on the context)?
ALife
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And grammatically, in the English original text, "dressed like a man" also seems to describe the King. Or maybe it's not entire clear whether the phrase is for the King or for the way he walks? I am not a native speaker of English, so maybe a speaker can tell better than me.
ALife
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In my understanding, rephrasing each sentence, they would become: "The Monkey King dressed like a man; he walked a long way" and "猴王穿得像个人一样; 他走了很长时间".
ALife
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@ALife Thank you for your input. I added the words "from a purely grammatical standpoint".
Joe at wearyourchinesename.com
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Joe at wearyourchinesename.com
<p>I'm having trouble understanding the following sentence:</p>
<p>&quot;猴王穿得像个人一样的走了很长时间。&quot;</p>
<p>Google translates it as</p>
<p>&quot;The Monkey King dressed like a man and walked for a long time. &quot; but I don't think this is accurate.</p>
<p>I know that the structure 像。。。一样 is often used to indicate that two nouns are similar in some fashion (in this case 猴王 and 个人 clothes).</p>
<p>What I am really struggling with is the use of 的 in the sentence and how it connects with the whole sentence, or what function does it serve.</p>

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The sentence is ungrammatical.
dan
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note: here `个人` is `一个人`（with`一`omitted, meaning "a man"）not 个人（individual）
imkzh
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Making sense of the structure 像/一样+的
# Making sense of the structure 像/一样+的

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-10-24)

I'm having trouble understanding the following sentence:

"猴王穿得像个人一样的走了很长时间。"

Google translates it as

"The Monkey King dressed like a man and walked for a long time. " but I don't think this is accurate.

I know that the structure 像。。。一样 is often used to indicate that two nouns are similar in some fashion (in this case 猴王 and 个人 clothes).

What I am really struggling with is the use of 的 in the sentence and how it connects with the whole sentence, or what function does it serve.

**Tags:** grammar
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: The sentence is ungrammatical.  
> **username_2**: note: here `个人` is `一个人`（with`一`omitted, meaning "a man"）not 个人（individual）  

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## 6 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2021-10-24. Score: 0 | Accepted answer

It seems to me that using 的/de/ instead of 地/de/ as an adverb marker is acceptable to most people.

Look at the following two phrases

重重地打擊 /chóngchóng de dǎjí/ : heavily(adv) hit(v)

重重的打擊 /chóngchóng de dǎjí/ : heavy(adj) hit(n)

The functions of 地 and 的 are clearly different, however, we often see sentences like this: 重重的打擊他 (hit him heavily). 的 here takes on the role of an adverb marker (same as 地)

重重的打擊他 = 重重地打擊他

> 猴王穿得像个人一样的走了很长时间

的 here modifies the verb 走 (describes the manner of the verb is carried out), therefore, it is acting as an adverb marker instead of an adjective marker

It is also correct to write: 猴王穿得像个人一样地走了很长时间

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: would it make sense to write: 猴王穿得像个人一样的（衣服）走了很长时间?  
> **username_3**: It should be 猴王穿得像个人（穿衣服）一样的走了很长时间  
> **username_4**: Would you mind shedding light on (semantically) how could the walking be different with different dressing, as the question I raised under a different answer?  
> **username_0**: "He" in this case is a monkey disguised as a man, and the idea here is that now that he is wearing these clothes he can pass as a man and walk for a long time looking for watever he is looking for.  
> **username_5**: I witnessed the same roughly use of 的 where 地 should be used. I'm waiting for a revision of the dictionaries, but in the meantime it is still **not correct**. There is much confusion among natives on how to use (and pronounce) 地.  

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### Answer by username_0 on 2021-10-26. Score: 1

thanks for all the answers. This has been very helpful.

**Update**

Jeff Pepper is the Founder and CEO of imagin8press, the publisher of the book from where I got this passage. Here's his take on the matter:

"Hi Marcus, thanks for pointing this out. I talked it over with my writing partner and translator Xiao Hui, and we agree that the use of 的 in this sentence is correct, although it might be confusing.

As used here, 的is part of the expression 一样的, meaning "the same". As I'm sure you've seen, 的 is often put after an adjective, for example in the common expression 好的. When we use 的 here, it pertains to the word before it, 一样, and not the words that follow it.

Xiao Hui suggests that we could have broken it up with a comma, like this:
猴王穿得像个人一样的, 走了很长时间。

Anyway, hope this makes sense. I see that you've started a Reddit discussion about this. feel free to pass our comments along if you like!

Best regards,"

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: "猴王穿得像个人一样的"  isn't good. 的 is so out of place. 猴王穿得像个人一样 is better.  
> **username_1**: As for the usage of 一样的 vs 一样, we say: "团结得像一个人一样", not "团结得像一个人一样的". 一样的 is like adjective in English. e.g . 我们俩个是一样的。一样的天, and etc. So, the structure here 像......一样, not 像......一样的. e.g. 像我一样, not 像我一样的. Or we can say 像我一样的跑. But the OP's sentence 穿得像个人一样的走 doesn't make a practical sense though it's grammatical. That's why I said in my answer the problem is not about 的 and 地, but the way it describes the action "走". Otherwise, we have to seperate it as two independent clauses like 猴王穿得像个人一样, (猴王/他)走了很长时间。  

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### Answer by username_6 on 2021-10-25. Score: 1

I agree with ALife. It reads much better and more understandable if we use a comma to separate the sentence and get rid of 的: 猴王穿得像个人一样, 他走了很长时间


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### Answer by username_1 on 2021-10-24. Score: 1

> 猴王穿得像个人一样的走了很长时间。

I shared the opinion with @Alife. The problem isn't about the usage of 的 or 地. The 穿得像个人一样(dressed like a man) isn't a way of walking, so it cannot be used to describe the walk itself. It's better to parallel the two phrases like:

> 猴王穿得像个人一样走了很长时间。

Or

> 猴王穿得像个人一样, (它)走了很长时间。

In real life, some might deliberately use this nonsensical description to make a joke. E.g. 他像骑马一样地吃饭。But in OP's sentence, it's not for joking purpose obviously.


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### Answer by username_4 on 2021-10-24. Score: 1

Your confusion is reasonable. The correct ways would be

* 猴王穿得像个人一样走了很长时间
* 猴王穿得像个人一样似的走了很长时间 (this *could* be seen as redundancy, but it's probably common colloquially)
* 穿得像个人一样的猴王走了很长时间


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### Answer by username_5 on 2021-10-24. Score: 0

Your sentence is from the book "The Rise of the Monkey King" (《猴王的诞生》), which includes both the original

> "The Monkey King walked a long way dressed like a man."

and the translation

> "猴王穿得像个人一样的走了很长时间。"

Anyway, from a purely grammatical standpoint, as auxiliary particle I would have used 地 (used after an adverbial phrase before verbs and adjectives, in this case the verb 走) instead of 的.

> **Comments:**
> **username_4**: IMHO, both the original English text and the Chinese one (with my assumption of the writer's intention) wanted to use the phrase "dressed like a man" or "穿得像个人一样" to describe the Monkey King, as opposed to the way how he walks. Even though grammatically both ways are correct, semantically, I do not see how "dressed like xxx" could be a way of walking. Put it another way, how could the walking be different with different dressing? Or maybe there could be (depending on the context)?  
> **username_4**: And grammatically, in the English original text, "dressed like a man" also seems to describe the King. Or maybe it's not entire clear whether the phrase is for the King or for the way he walks? I am not a native speaker of English, so maybe a speaker can tell better than me.  
> **username_4**: In my understanding, rephrasing each sentence, they would become: "The Monkey King dressed like a man; he walked a long way" and "猴王穿得像个人一样; 他走了很长时间".  
> **username_5**: @ALife Thank you for your input. I added the words "from a purely grammatical standpoint".  

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