<p>Yes，but 苦也 and other verb + 也 is so literary，and not frequently used in novels. It seems that 评书 loves to use this word, if I am not wrong.</p>

<p>There are a lot of words can be used here, according to how far it relate to oral and modern： 不妙 ->  不好 -> 糟了 -> 糟糕 -> 完了 -> 完蛋了 </p>

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<p>卧槽 is a milder version of 我操，which is rather vulgar like F word in English. </p>

<p>There are ways to express this neutrally or decently. The simple one I would suggest is 哎呀！or just 呀！</p>

<p>苦也 is not quite the same, however, and it means <strong>suffering</strong> or <strong>bitter</strong>.</p>

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<p>卧槽 (我操) is mostly used as an exclamation, It can be any phrase as long as it expresses the emotion the speaker intended to express. Like 'rage, surprise, displease' and so on.</p>

<p>Some examples:</p>

<p>可惡 (rage/ anger/ displease)</p>

<p>可怒也 (rage/ anger/ displease)</p>

<p>糟糕 (surprise, worry, fear)</p>

<p>不好; 不妙(surprise, worry)</p>

<p>管他 (dismissive/ self-abandon )</p>

<p>豈有此理 (anger, displease)</p>

<p>弊了 (surprise, worry, fear)</p>

<p>In your example, either 可怒也 or 可惡 would be a good choice</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>……只觉重门叠户之内，如处隐伏甲兵。李思永叫声<strong>可惡</strong>，流星锤舞得呼呼风响，把一扇门板打碎，…… (<em>he was angry about being ambushed</em>)</p>
</blockquote>

<p>But other exclamations can be chosen too, depend on what emotion the author wanted the character to express</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>苦也 express 'despair' or 'disparate', it does fit in the example too, but the emotion would be different from other exclamations I listed</p>
</blockquote>

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<p>It depends on the context, in 早期白话文，you could use 苦也，but it would sound weird if you are talking with someone, in modern world.</p>
<p>You could use some less offensive ones like</p>
<blockquote>
<p>我擦</p>
<p>我擦咧</p>
<p>我去</p>
</blockquote>
<p>They almost have no offensive meaning and are good to use among friends, but if would like to express such feelings to your teacher or parents, you might just say</p>
<blockquote>
<p>啊？！</p>
</blockquote>

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<p>Many people say 卧槽 when something unpleasant happens surprisingly. However, <a href="https://chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/23273/why-chinese-use-too-many-%E9%94%99%E5%88%AB%E5%AD%97">this word is considered as vulgar</a>. So how to express such feelings decently without using offensive words? Is 苦也 a good choice?</p>

<p>Compare the following:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>……只觉重门叠户之内，如处隐伏甲兵。李思永叫声<strong>卧槽</strong>，流星锤舞得呼呼风响，把一扇门板打碎，……</p>
</blockquote>

<p>and </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>……只觉重门叠户之内，如处隐伏甲兵。李思永叫声<strong>苦也</strong>，流星锤舞得呼呼风响，把一扇门板打碎，……</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Are they basically mean the same thing? The second one seems more polite to me.</p>

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卧槽 sounds like you travel to the future in time.
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To express surprise with disappointment, if 卧槽 is vulgar, is 苦也 considered a decent alternative?
# To express surprise with disappointment, if 卧槽 is vulgar, is 苦也 considered a decent alternative?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-02-14)

Many people say 卧槽 when something unpleasant happens surprisingly. However, [this word is considered as vulgar](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/23273/why-chinese-use-too-many-%E9%94%99%E5%88%AB%E5%AD%97). So how to express such feelings decently without using offensive words? Is 苦也 a good choice?

Compare the following:

> ……只觉重门叠户之内，如处隐伏甲兵。李思永叫声**卧槽**，流星锤舞得呼呼风响，把一扇门板打碎，……

and

> ……只觉重门叠户之内，如处隐伏甲兵。李思永叫声**苦也**，流星锤舞得呼呼风响，把一扇门板打碎，……

Are they basically mean the same thing? The second one seems more polite to me.

**Tags:** word-choice, politeness
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: 卧槽 sounds like you travel to the future in time.  

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## 4 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2019-02-15. Score: 1

Yes，but 苦也 and other verb + 也 is so literary，and not frequently used in novels. It seems that 评书 loves to use this word, if I am not wrong.

There are a lot of words can be used here, according to how far it relate to oral and modern： 不妙 -> 不好 -> 糟了 -> 糟糕 -> 完了 -> 完蛋了


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### Answer by username_3 on 2019-02-14. Score: 1

卧槽 is a milder version of 我操，which is rather vulgar like F word in English.

There are ways to express this neutrally or decently. The simple one I would suggest is 哎呀！or just 呀！

苦也 is not quite the same, however, and it means **suffering** or **bitter**.


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### Answer by username_4 on 2019-02-14. Score: 1

卧槽 (我操) is mostly used as an exclamation, It can be any phrase as long as it expresses the emotion the speaker intended to express. Like 'rage, surprise, displease' and so on.

Some examples:

可惡 (rage/ anger/ displease)

可怒也 (rage/ anger/ displease)

糟糕 (surprise, worry, fear)

不好; 不妙(surprise, worry)

管他 (dismissive/ self-abandon )

豈有此理 (anger, displease)

弊了 (surprise, worry, fear)

In your example, either 可怒也 or 可惡 would be a good choice

> ……只觉重门叠户之内，如处隐伏甲兵。李思永叫声**可惡**，流星锤舞得呼呼风响，把一扇门板打碎，…… (*he was angry about being ambushed*)

But other exclamations can be chosen too, depend on what emotion the author wanted the character to express

> 苦也 express 'despair' or 'disparate', it does fit in the example too, but the emotion would be different from other exclamations I listed


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### Answer by username_5 on 2019-02-15. Score: 0

It depends on the context, in 早期白话文，you could use 苦也，but it would sound weird if you are talking with someone, in modern world.

You could use some less offensive ones like

> 我擦
>
> 我擦咧
>
> 我去

They almost have no offensive meaning and are good to use among friends, but if would like to express such feelings to your teacher or parents, you might just say

> 啊？！


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