<blockquote>
  <p>Is this 得 doing the same job in both sentences?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Yes. Both 得 are 'verb particle'</p>

<p>In both sentences, 得 are following a verb. It is a [verb particle] of the verb before it.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>'漂亮而迷人' is the 'result/ degree' of the action '把自己梳理'</p>
  
  <p>[把自己梳理] is the [verb phrase]; [得] is a [verb particle] (*used to express possibility or capability; to indicate the result or degree. Similar to English 'to' / 'to the point of' *)</p>
  
  <p>[漂亮而迷人] here is an [adjective phrase]. It is the[result/degree] of the verb phrase [把自己梳理]. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>~</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>'生病' is the result/ degree of '忧郁'</p>
  
  <p>[忧郁] is the main verb; [得] is a [verb particle] (*used to express possibility or capability; to indicate the result or degree. Similar to English 'to' / 'to the point of' *)</p>
  
  <p>[生病] is the auxiliary verb. It is the [result/degree] caused by the main verb [忧郁].</p>
</blockquote>

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忧郁 is a 动词？ That was my problem. I thought it is a 形容词 and 生病 is a 动词。 Could you give me a sentence with 忧郁 very clearly a 动词？ Could I use it instead of say: 使沮丧，使伤心？
Pedroski
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Even if 得 is following an adjective, it is still a verb particle because the verb "being" was just being omitted. " (being) sad to the point of getting sick"
Tang Ho
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Tang Ho
<p>Simple pattern:</p>

<pre><code>adj + 的 + noun
adv + 地 + verb
verb + 得 + adv
</code></pre>

<blockquote>
  <ol>
  <li>把自己梳理得漂亮而迷人。 </li>
  </ol>
</blockquote>

<p>梳理(verb) 漂亮(acting like a adverb)</p>

<blockquote>
  <ol start="2">
  <li>会不会忧郁得生病？</li>
  </ol>
</blockquote>

<p>忧郁(acting like verb), 生病(acting like adverb)</p>

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So what you are saying is: de makes the difference? In spoken language you cannot hear the difference. You do not know which de. 我忧郁了。我好了。 Is 好 a verb?
Pedroski
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@Pedroski, In spoken language, we need to use contexts to figure out 'de'. In high quality writings, these characters have strong different functions, can not be interchangeble. You can prove it in newspapers, dictionaries.
sfy
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<p>i know this forum today,so i sign up a account and learn english instead,
fo me  , i thinks chinese grammar is stanger, because, for us, i need not any grammar, so i think every sentence, i noly use "的" is ok, because, i never use "得 地" for a long time</p>

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I can't just go around only using 的， I would get into trouble! I have exams to pass!
Pedroski
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hao.li
<p>Is this 得 doing the same job in both sentences? Maybe in 2. they should have used 地？ （I don't really think so, but maybe.)</p>

<ol>
<li>把自己梳理得漂亮而迷人。</li>
<li>会不会忧郁得生病？</li>
</ol>

<p>In 1. I have 得[漂亮]而[迷人] [形容词]
In 2. I have 得(生病) (动词）</p>

<p>忧郁： sullen, depressed</p>

<meaning>
In these 2 sentences does 得 have the same function?
# In these 2 sentences does 得 have the same function?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-03-16)

Is this 得 doing the same job in both sentences? Maybe in 2. they should have used 地？ （I don't really think so, but maybe.)

1. 把自己梳理得漂亮而迷人。
2. 会不会忧郁得生病？

In 1. I have 得[漂亮]而[迷人] [形容词]
In 2. I have 得(生病) (动词）

忧郁： sullen, depressed

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2017-03-16. Score: 3

> Is this 得 doing the same job in both sentences?

Yes. Both 得 are 'verb particle'

In both sentences, 得 are following a verb. It is a [verb particle] of the verb before it.

> '漂亮而迷人' is the 'result/ degree' of the action '把自己梳理'
>
> [把自己梳理] is the [verb phrase]; [得] is a [verb particle] (\*used to express possibility or capability; to indicate the result or degree. Similar to English 'to' / 'to the point of' \*)
>
> [漂亮而迷人] here is an [adjective phrase]. It is the[result/degree] of the verb phrase [把自己梳理].

~

> '生病' is the result/ degree of '忧郁'
>
> [忧郁] is the main verb; [得] is a [verb particle] (\*used to express possibility or capability; to indicate the result or degree. Similar to English 'to' / 'to the point of' \*)
>
> [生病] is the auxiliary verb. It is the [result/degree] caused by the main verb [忧郁].

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: 忧郁 is a 动词？ That was my problem. I thought it is a 形容词 and 生病 is a 动词。 Could you give me a sentence with 忧郁 very clearly a 动词？ Could I use it instead of say: 使沮丧，使伤心？  
> **username_1**: Even if 得 is following an adjective, it is still a verb particle because the verb "being" was just being omitted. " (being) sad to the point of getting sick"  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2017-03-19. Score: 1

Simple pattern:
adj + 的 + noun
adv + 地 + verb
verb + 得 + adv



把自己梳理得漂亮而迷人。 


梳理(verb) 漂亮(acting like a adverb)


会不会忧郁得生病？


忧郁(acting like verb), 生病(acting like adverb)

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: So what you are saying is: de makes the difference? In spoken language you cannot hear the difference. You do not know which de. 我忧郁了。我好了。 Is 好 a verb?  
> **username_2**: @Pedroski, In spoken language, we need to use contexts to figure out 'de'. In high quality writings, these characters have strong different functions, can not be interchangeble. You can prove it in newspapers, dictionaries.  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2017-03-16. Score: -1

i know this forum today,so i sign up a account and learn english instead,
fo me , i thinks chinese grammar is stanger, because, for us, i need not any grammar, so i think every sentence, i noly use "的" is ok, because, i never use "得 地" for a long time

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I can't just go around only using 的， I would get into trouble! I have exams to pass!  

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