<p>You need your own stream server.  The problem with services like YouTube and Twitch.TV is that your stream has to go through a lot of processing and content distribution on their end before it goes out to viewers.  That processing takes time and results in lag.  You can send the exact same stream to your own stream server and have it directly related with far FAR less delay (sub-second to a couple seconds), but are limited to the capabilities of your stream server to meet demand.</p>

<p>I've only done this kind of thing with Windows Expression Encoder in the past using a Windows Media Streaming server which is pretty easy to use, but only works on WMV files and thus isn't really all that good of a modern solution for h.264 video in cross platform streams.  RED5 should theoretically be capable of relaying a stream for you and you could either set it up locally or preferably throw it up on a VPS somewhere that can do the relaying for you (as 16mbit will get consumed really fast sending a 4.5mbps stream to multiple people).</p>

<p>Streaming is unfortunately not particularly easy to get setup and going for yourself though and that is a big part of why services that simplify it, like Youtube and Twitch.TV, are so popular despite their massive lag times.</p>

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Well, the server that I host my game on has 1Gbit upward connection speeds, so I could probably upload the stream to it and provide access to moderators only - at most this will be about six to eight people, so the HD streams would add up to around 30Mbit, well within the capabilities of the server. I'll talk to my sysadmin about this. Thanks for the pointer.
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Oh, yeah, if you have a server already, then yes, setup a RED5 instance or something similar and replicate out that way.  Throw up a RTMP viewer somewhere for the co-hosts or just have them use a stream viewer client to hook directly into the stream.  Stream replication itself isn't that much of a server hit, just bandwidth and it sounds like you have that in spades.  If you have a moderate budget, there are also some commercial stream servers that are easier to setup and maintain.
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<p>I've recently started livestreaming, and during the test stream feedback was received that I tended to concentrate a fair amount on the game I was streaming, and not able to respond to commenters on the stream, despite my moderators' having a system to flag posts for my attention.</p>

<p>To resolve this, I started a Skype call with said moderators so they could participate in the stream too. However it was quickly noticed that their participation was limited to responding to comments and talking about the site that the stream was being hosted on (it's a YouTube stream embedded in my game site), because the stream output lags by about a minute.</p>

<p>To fix <em>that</em>, I started sharing my screen on Skype, thus allowing the moderators on call to see my screen and therefore the stream with much less delay. However, this started causing problems because it made the video stream lag for the viewers, and I had to stop the Skype video.</p>

<p>I'm using XSplit Broadcaster, and during real streams I will be streaming to YouTube as well as to a local recording. XSplit is perfectly capable of broadcasting to multiple sources (and my bandwidth easily allows it - I get a minimum of 16Mbit upload and the stream quality I'm sending is 4.5Mbit), however I'm wondering if there's any way I can provide a live stream to my moderators, so they can see what I'm seeing and participate properly in real(-ish)time.</p>

<p>Any advice on this would be much appreciated!</p>

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# Streaming live to co-hosts

(Asked by: username_0 on 2014-10-07)

I've recently started livestreaming, and during the test stream feedback was received that I tended to concentrate a fair amount on the game I was streaming, and not able to respond to commenters on the stream, despite my moderators' having a system to flag posts for my attention.

To resolve this, I started a Skype call with said moderators so they could participate in the stream too. However it was quickly noticed that their participation was limited to responding to comments and talking about the site that the stream was being hosted on (it's a YouTube stream embedded in my game site), because the stream output lags by about a minute.

To fix *that*, I started sharing my screen on Skype, thus allowing the moderators on call to see my screen and therefore the stream with much less delay. However, this started causing problems because it made the video stream lag for the viewers, and I had to stop the Skype video.

I'm using XSplit Broadcaster, and during real streams I will be streaming to YouTube as well as to a local recording. XSplit is perfectly capable of broadcasting to multiple sources (and my bandwidth easily allows it - I get a minimum of 16Mbit upload and the stream quality I'm sending is 4.5Mbit), however I'm wondering if there's any way I can provide a live stream to my moderators, so they can see what I'm seeing and participate properly in real(-ish)time.

Any advice on this would be much appreciated!

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### Answer by username_1 on 2014-10-07. Score: 1 | Accepted answer

You need your own stream server. The problem with services like YouTube and Twitch.TV is that your stream has to go through a lot of processing and content distribution on their end before it goes out to viewers. That processing takes time and results in lag. You can send the exact same stream to your own stream server and have it directly related with far FAR less delay (sub-second to a couple seconds), but are limited to the capabilities of your stream server to meet demand.

I've only done this kind of thing with Windows Expression Encoder in the past using a Windows Media Streaming server which is pretty easy to use, but only works on WMV files and thus isn't really all that good of a modern solution for h.264 video in cross platform streams. RED5 should theoretically be capable of relaying a stream for you and you could either set it up locally or preferably throw it up on a VPS somewhere that can do the relaying for you (as 16mbit will get consumed really fast sending a 4.5mbps stream to multiple people).

Streaming is unfortunately not particularly easy to get setup and going for yourself though and that is a big part of why services that simplify it, like Youtube and Twitch.TV, are so popular despite their massive lag times.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Well, the server that I host my game on has 1Gbit upward connection speeds, so I could probably upload the stream to it and provide access to moderators only - at most this will be about six to eight people, so the HD streams would add up to around 30Mbit, well within the capabilities of the server. I'll talk to my sysadmin about this. Thanks for the pointer.  
> **username_1**: Oh, yeah, if you have a server already, then yes, setup a RED5 instance or something similar and replicate out that way.  Throw up a RTMP viewer somewhere for the co-hosts or just have them use a stream viewer client to hook directly into the stream.  Stream replication itself isn't that much of a server hit, just bandwidth and it sounds like you have that in spades.  If you have a moderate budget, there are also some commercial stream servers that are easier to setup and maintain.  

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