<p>Shape layers can comprise more than one shape, indeed they can contain multiple groups of shapes. So when you have multiple elements in a shape layer and want to transform one of them but not the others you use the individual transforms for that part, when you want to transform the whole layer you use the normal layer transforms.</p>

<p>If your shape layer only contains one element then there is really no difference, except that the layer transforms are accessible to keyboard shortcuts, e.g. <kbd>P</kbd> for position, <kbd>S</kbd> for scale etc., and work with nudging, e.g. the arrow keys or <kbd>num pad +</kbd> and <kbd>num pad -</kbd> for rotation.</p>

<p>Of course you can achieve the same result as having multiple parts to a shape layer by creating multiple shape layers each containing one part and grouping them by parenting, using expressions or precomping them. </p>

<p>Whether you make shapes with individual parts per layer or all in one layer is a matter of taste. I tend to switch between the two, but mostly favour individual parts per layer - I like my keyboard shortcuts. </p>

<p>I kinda think the AE layer shapes implementation isn't AE's strongest feature. For anything complicated I always do it in Illustrator and import.</p>

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<p>If you are only transforming 1 group, you can leave this set to normal. </p>

<p>Another way, which is what I would do: Parent all your shape layers to a single Null Object Layer. Then transform the Null Object Layer. </p>

<p>This will allow you to easily control the transforms, either 2D or 3D with one layer node. </p>

<p>Null Object Layers are one of the best tools in the AE toolkit. </p>

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<p>When dealing with shape layers, you get 2 transform options. One is inside Group sublayer and the other is just plain transform. This image shows what I mean:</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/qWKU9.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/qWKU9.png" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>

<p>When should I use Transform Group and when just Transform? My shape only has 1 group. In that case, does it matter which transform I use?</p>

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Different transform options of shape layers
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# Different transform options of shape layers

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-12-08)

When dealing with shape layers, you get 2 transform options. One is inside Group sublayer and the other is just plain transform. This image shows what I mean:

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/qWKU9.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/qWKU9.png)

When should I use Transform Group and when just Transform? My shape only has 1 group. In that case, does it matter which transform I use?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2016-12-12. Score: 1

Shape layers can comprise more than one shape, indeed they can contain multiple groups of shapes. So when you have multiple elements in a shape layer and want to transform one of them but not the others you use the individual transforms for that part, when you want to transform the whole layer you use the normal layer transforms.

If your shape layer only contains one element then there is really no difference, except that the layer transforms are accessible to keyboard shortcuts, e.g. `P` for position, `S` for scale etc., and work with nudging, e.g. the arrow keys or `num pad +` and `num pad -` for rotation.

Of course you can achieve the same result as having multiple parts to a shape layer by creating multiple shape layers each containing one part and grouping them by parenting, using expressions or precomping them.

Whether you make shapes with individual parts per layer or all in one layer is a matter of taste. I tend to switch between the two, but mostly favour individual parts per layer - I like my keyboard shortcuts.

I kinda think the AE layer shapes implementation isn't AE's strongest feature. For anything complicated I always do it in Illustrator and import.


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### Answer by username_2 on 2016-12-09. Score: 0

If you are only transforming 1 group, you can leave this set to normal.

Another way, which is what I would do: Parent all your shape layers to a single Null Object Layer. Then transform the Null Object Layer.

This will allow you to easily control the transforms, either 2D or 3D with one layer node.

Null Object Layers are one of the best tools in the AE toolkit.


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